No not the PAF tone, but I still like it a lot. They sound really great with light guage strings (9s). And they respond very well to how hard you pick. And they can chugThat is interesting! And agreed, definitely not the PAF sound we all look for. LOL
Catalog for 1984 says PAF MKII.
TSG60 got PAF Vintage.
Thats great and happy to provide this info to your already very detailed list. I reference it often so thank you for preparing this.I just adjusted the post on the first page of this thread to add your readings. I didn't have any for the PAF MKII.
And I added 1985 for the period they show up.
This was an odd time at Tokai. Lots of weird spec stuff going on, and the product line shifted a lot and models disappeared.
I recently bought a 1985 TSG-50. I thought that Tokai stopped using the PAF stickers on their pickups in 84, but this one has the stickers on both pups.
Both lead wires are white.
I was curious what the bobbins were, and the magnets, so I took the cover off the bridge pup to have a look.
They're double black bobbins with the square windown.
And the magnet is ceramic. I didn't unwrap the tape so I don't know how thick it is.
Wood (maple) spacers on both sides.
In the guitar, the DC resistance is 18.75k for the bridge and 18.78 in the neck, so probably around 19.5k out of the guitar (being in parallel with a 500k pot).
They definitely don't sound like PAFs.
I suspect these are the same as the earlier
Thanks.That's a nice guitar and it's the first one I've seen in Canada besides mine, which is an '84 TSG-50 in black, with Tokai PAFs and by some miracle mine is less than 7lbs, and it doesn't neck dive.
I agree.Oh good. Glad this stuff is helping someone.
The idea of this thread was to begin to gather readings on the different models over the years to get an idea of what was offered.
It is still a work in progress, so your data really helps! Also really helps to see what a misnomer some of these were if they were putting PAF labels on ceramic humbuckers (PAF MKII). I didn't realize that.
Thanks!
They couldnt fit "57 PAF, but way way hotter" on the stickerDisguising a 19kΩ ceramic pickup with standard optics and a "57 PAF" sticker is wild.
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