Lawsuit? ..............I`ve just about had enough!

[bluejeannot]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-Goldstar-Sound-1985-/270738373845?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f0943bcd5 Has anybody else had enough of this ill informed lawsuit rubbish?The guitar for sale is also almost certainly not an 84.We had the unmodified headstock in the U.K. up until about 1988. :-? Gabe.

 

[jacco]

Gabe, is there a difference between LS and ST models then? The first LS with modified headstock (dimple) is from 1985.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-Tokai-Love-Rock-Paiseley-Electric-Guitar-/330554173733?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf6906925 More lawsuit nonsense! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Gabe.

 

[marcusnieman]

I always go back to them with "tell me about this lawsuit stuff" and then wait for the often hilarious reply... to which I will respond again in less than gentle manner.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Takamine-F395ms-1970s-Guild-lawsuit-model-mint-cond-/190527742697?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2c5c56a2e9 Ah so now it was Takamine that was taken to court by Guild and Martin! :lol: My Grannie was taken to court you know because apparently she looked a lot like a woman in The U.S.Honestly! :wink: Gabe

 

[bluejeannot]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-and-rare-1979-Tokai-Les-Paul-Reborn-MIJ-lawsuit-/230633810316?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35b2d8a98c No sorrry wrong again it was Gibson that took Tokai to court! :lol: Gabe.

 

[jacco]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-Goldstar-Sound-1985-/270738373845?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f0943bcd5 Has anybody else had enough of this ill informed lawsuit rubbish?The guitar for sale is also almost certainly not an 84.We had the unmodified headstock in the U.K. up until about 1988. :-? Gabe.

Not very long ago there was a guy on here from the UK that bought a Tokai strat modified headstock in 1984, can't find that post though.

 

[bluejeannot]

I think that in the U.S. they started modifying the headstock as early as 83.here in the U.K. you could still find unmodified headstocks till at least 1990.Gabe.

 

[jonah65]

so my (verified by tokai),1987 breezysound with modified headstock could actually be post 1990? :-?

 

[bluejeannot]

It all depends in which country it was originally sold.Gabe.

 

[jonah65]

good point, there's no way of finding that out i suppose?

 

[jacco]

I think that in the U.S. they started modifying the headstock as early as 83.here in the U.K. you could still find unmodified headstocks till at least 1990.Gabe.

do you mean earlier production still being imported at that time?

 

[bluejeannot]

It`s difficult to tell but I doubt it.I think that there were no overiding legal reasons not to send the unmodified headstock to the U.K.This being so there was a strong commmercial incentive in terms of customer acceptance to send what were essentialy Japanese domestic Goldstars to the U.K. distributor ,but this is conjecture on my part.Gabe.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/tokai8705.jpg Here`s a page from the 87/8 European catalogue.As you can see both the Strats and Teles have unmodded headstocks.Gabe.

 

[jacco]

Thanks Gabe, interesting stuff. Funny thing is that in the 1985-1986 catalog, the one with SRV on the cover, it's the other way around: modified Fender headstocks, unmodified Gibosn headstocks. It doesn't say on the back for which countries it applies to. The 1984-1985 catalog has no modifications and states it's valid for all countries except USA.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/reviews/TGM_p4.jpg Here`s a review from a UK magazine of a 1993 LS 55 and again the headstock is unmodded.Gabe.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-and-rare-1979-Tokai-Les-Paul-Reborn-MIJ-lawsuit-/230633810316?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35b2d8a98c sorrry wrong again it was Gibson that took Tokai to court! :lol: Gabe.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-1978-GRECO-SA-550-WA-335-MODEL-/290592065663?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a8a3087f No wrong again it was Gibson that took Greco to court! :lol: Gabe

 

[bluejeannot]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAYA-TOKAI-TELECASTER-VINTAGE-GUITAR-1970s-1980s-/310338713855?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4841a0f8ff It seems I`ve got it wrong yet again!It was of course Fender that took Maya to court ! They apparently felt really threatened by the quality of this Maya guitar :lol: :lol: :lol: Gabe.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350492457979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 Here`s a classic .This idiot states that the guitar is a Japanese "lawsuit"copy but the label in the soundhole clearly says Made in Korea! Nuts or what? :roll: Gabe.

 

[bluejeannot]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACOUSTIC-GUITAR-C-F-Mountain-E-NOT-MARTIN-/180745692598?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a154865b6 More total lawsuit horse~#%* :roll: Gabe.