Roe
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I want a magnetic out of phase sound ala peter greenbaum in the middle pos on my LS-320. How do I reverse/flipp the magnets?
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well, i've heard several times that is does not sound the same. when it's magnetically out of phase, the effect is supposed to increase the higher pinch the tone have.
people disagree a bit over the green/moore guitar
Roe said:well, i've heard several times that is does not sound the same. when it's magnetically out of phase, the effect is supposed to increase the higher pinch the tone have.
Paladin2019 said:BTW - it's peter green, not peter greenbaum. :wink:
Roe said:with magnetic polarity, the phase effect is supposed to increase the higher pitch the tone has.
From Seymore Duncans' web page:
71. What did Peter Green do to his Humbuckers to give him his sound and does he still have his old Les Paul that he used in early recording with Fleetwood Mac? Jeff Ross, Hollywood, Ca
This question has come up a lot lately. What Peter Green did was pretty easy to do. First the neck pickup is out of phase with the bridge pickup. To do this the cover was removed from the Humbucking Pickup, the screws loosened and the Alnico bar magnet was pull out and flipped over 180? degrees and put back in place. The screws that were loosened need to be firmly tightened or you will have extra feedback problems. The magnet should be pulled out on the opposite end where the lead and hookup wires are attached and soldered. When putting the pickup back in the mounting ring, you need to reverse the angle of the ring. When you put the pickup back into the routed cavity the adjustable screws will face the bridge and the studs (under the cover) will face the neck. The stud side of the bobbin has a slightly higher magnetic field than the adjustable side. This is because the adjustable screws extend out the bottom of the pickup and loose some of the magnetic field to the strings.
Roe said:you can hear the phase effect better on i the treble than the bass
tudor said:From Seymore Duncans' web page:
71. What did Peter Green do to his Humbuckers to give him his sound and does he still have his old Les Paul that he used in early recording with Fleetwood Mac? Jeff Ross, Hollywood, Ca
This question has come up a lot lately. What Peter Green did was pretty easy to do. First the neck pickup is out of phase with the bridge pickup. To do this the cover was removed from the Humbucking Pickup, the screws loosened and the Alnico bar magnet was pull out and flipped over 180? degrees and put back in place. The screws that were loosened need to be firmly tightened or you will have extra feedback problems. The magnet should be pulled out on the opposite end where the lead and hookup wires are attached and soldered. When putting the pickup back in the mounting ring, you need to reverse the angle of the ring. When you put the pickup back into the routed cavity the adjustable screws will face the bridge and the studs (under the cover) will face the neck. The stud side of the bobbin has a slightly higher magnetic field than the adjustable side. This is because the adjustable screws extend out the bottom of the pickup and loose some of the magnetic field to the strings.
Roe,
I really enjoy helping people who have questions ... :lol:
... but obviously you have already known what we were trying to figure out ...! :-?
From that point of view - I don't understand the purpose of your original question!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Roger
Paladin2019 said:Roe said:you can hear the phase effect better on i the treble than the bass
That's rubbish. The only difference between the two that I've ever heard talked about is that electrical phase can be noisier than magnetic phase, and I'm not even sure if that's true.
If you'd like I could put together a clip or two for you showing what electrical phase sounds like. From what you're saying, it sounds like you've never heard an electrical out of phase guitar, so maybe I can help.
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