Tokai LP custom

[luis]

Sorry for any inconvenience caused Jose Carlos,no offense intended at all again.I just found Supernout post talking about Tokai swapping parts with other people,not really sure about this but I think this could shed some light on this.Tokai serial number are sometimes very confusing to all of us.But as a rule,Tokai began using basswood in 1.989 in tele and stratos and started introducing korean models in their catalogue(just check 1.989 one an you'll see ST-28 and such low models and some strats and teles copies are basswood made).

Peter ,where are you amigo?We need your master tuition.

 

[Loudmouse]

What? Did Tokai make Love Rocks with inked serial numbers? When did they do that? (sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[ian]

Ha,? Loudmouse, glad to see you you're still here man! Well ?. has that inked Tokai begun to look any newer yet? Does it look more like a Greco now? Or are we still where we were at the start? :wink:

Re. Carlos guitar - I?d never take any of this as more than 95% likely on any guitar/amp (inc. the Gibbo?s in BOTB, and inc. the Marshall amp?s in Doyle? the 18watt section at least is wrong). OK, we don?t have a catalogue for 1990, however, if you look in 1989 catalogue you?ll see the diamond logo was very different (& still same in 1996 Cat.). Whereas, the 1978 shows that original split diamond design (ie direct copy of Gibson, & same on Carlos?s guitar). It?s not definitive, and as I say I?d prefer to see the guitar in person (hey perhaps I?ll pop over to Madrid again later this month),? but as I said earlier, that diamond was the primary factor in threatened lawsuits, so many Japanese makers stopped using it after about 1977-1979 :-? .

Ian.

 

[hans-j?rgen]

I'm think that the guitar maybe of year 1990 because a tokai guitar with serial number 9001536 can be the number 1536 of 1979 or the number 1536 of the 1990.

What did the seller tell you about its age?

 

[ian]

I think we?re getting side-tracked on the date thing ? doesn?t really matter at all if its? 79 or 90 (that?s just minor side issue). If I understood correctly, the real issue was the pale looking wood & whether the guitar is actually a Tokai or not?

Ian.

 

[luis]

I recall someone here owned a LC-65?? baswood made that he changed by LS-60/65.Could the wood be agathis??Tokai is using it in some models.

LC-60/100 models from 1.980 year had got typical romboid inlay.I've seen it on a pair of examples.Tokai was trying to replicate Gibbo the best at detaill they can, hence Tokai's high reputation nowadays.

 

[Loudmouse]

IAN-Yeah, I'm always lurking around. I'm thinking that the "inky" was a Love Rock copy made by Fender to try and take away Tokai's part of the Gibson market. I might be wrong. Now if I could just find out more about this old wine red El Degas I have.....