bobstheman
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I bought this and was told it was a mid 80s tokai, is this really an old one or a new one? Serial number is 114166, im not afraid of giving out my serial number
njnall said:Hi and welcome to the forum.
It would greatly assist the regular contributors if you added your location to your profile. This is because, if my understanding of these things is correct the modified headstock's were introduced into the US way before they were introduced into Europe. So if yours is a US based guitar it is going to be older than one purchased in Europe. If I'm wrong someone will be along shortly to put me right
I can't say that I remember seeing a modified headstock Goldie with the closed tuners before and I notice that you have the old type switch and pots are the same type as on my ST55N [dated '84/'85] which I believe Tokai were using in the mid/late 80's to who knows when?
Where's the serial number stamped?
njnall said:It would greatly assist the regular contributors if you added your location to your profile. This is because, if my understanding of these things is correct the modified headstock's were introduced into the US way before they were introduced into Europe. So if yours is a US based guitar it is going to be older than one purchased in Europe.
Where's the serial number stamped?
bluejeannot said:This is NOT a mid 80s Tokai.Gabe.It`s likely to be year 2000 or so.
njnall said:Thanks for the information on where the serial number was stamped, now the bad news is that by the mid 80's this wasn't a mechanism for accurately dating a Tokai Goldstar, however it does mean that it's very unlikely to be a newer model as these didn't have anything stamped on the neckplate. Another anomoly is that the headstock seems to have had the "Oldies but Goldies" logo rather than the usual AST56 inscription so it could be a TST40 as per attached link[except the AST had vintage style tuners] so perhaps not.
http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/tokai_85-86_electric_p3.jpg
mirrorboy said:BTW, I don't think anybody has cracked the code yet. Some interesting theories but they don't tell us much and I don't remember seeing that V suffix either.
bobstheman said:So it looks to be an TST40, probably from the mid 80s?
1990-2000 goldies had the modified headstock, serial numbers and Goldstar sound decals as far as I know.Don`t you think the neck wood is too pale for a guitar that is supposedly over 30 years old? Gabe.njnall said:Thanks for the information on where the serial number was stamped, now the bad news is that by the mid 80's this wasn't a mechanism for accurately dating a Tokai Goldstar, however it does mean that it's very unlikely to be a newer model as these didn't have anything stamped on the neckplate. Another anomoly is that the headstock seems to have had the "Oldies but Goldies" logo rather than the usual AST56 inscription so it could be a TST40 as per attached link[except the AST had vintage style tuners] so perhaps not.
http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/tokai_85-86_electric_p3.jpg
bluejeannot said:1990-2000 goldies had the modified headstock, serial numbers and Goldstar sound decals as far as I know..
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