How to tell a fake tokai
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Ummm..you do know that the price for a solid top opposed to a veneer is ridiculous don't you?
I own a MiJ LS80 from 1985 with a veneer and it's hands down THE best guitar I've ever owned bar none...and I've owned Fenders,Gibsons, Hamers and countless fancy schmancy pointy '80's guitars like Kramers and Jacksons.
I really think the only difference between a veneer and a solid top is in the head of their owners..snooty snobby bastidz 8)
I also own a MiC Tokai SG43 and it's pretty decent guitar for not a lot of cash.
Sure...it's not going to be setting the world on fire with it's build quality but it was a cheap guitar that STILL beats the Chinese Epiphone equivalent in looks and playability that cost half the price of an Epi.
If you were sold this guitar as MiJ via Ebay for a lot of cash then I'd understand your resentment of it better...but man...if you bought this cheaply then you got what you paid for.
I own a MiJ LS80 from 1985 with a veneer and it's hands down THE best guitar I've ever owned bar none...and I've owned Fenders,Gibsons, Hamers and countless fancy schmancy pointy '80's guitars like Kramers and Jacksons.
I really think the only difference between a veneer and a solid top is in the head of their owners..snooty snobby bastidz 8)
I also own a MiC Tokai SG43 and it's pretty decent guitar for not a lot of cash.
Sure...it's not going to be setting the world on fire with it's build quality but it was a cheap guitar that STILL beats the Chinese Epiphone equivalent in looks and playability that cost half the price of an Epi.
If you were sold this guitar as MiJ via Ebay for a lot of cash then I'd understand your resentment of it better...but man...if you bought this cheaply then you got what you paid for.
leadguitar_323
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Pics on page one....... 
That cold must be playing tricks on you...!!!
Mick
That cold must be playing tricks on you...!!!Mick
leadguitar_323
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Same serial format and font as well.
Mick
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mattim
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It looks like there are at least two different series of MIC "Tokai" guitars widely marketed in UK. E.g. Rictone is marketing the series with serialnumbers CHxxxxxxxx and with Text "Made In China".
http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/ebay/ls48hdclh6.jpg
Then there seem to be this other series with much shorter serial numbers xxxxxx, totally different hardware and also with inferior craftmanship in my opinion. I have only seen the first series Tokais in Finland.
I would avoid the latter ones.
Matti
http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/ebay/ls48hdclh6.jpg
Then there seem to be this other series with much shorter serial numbers xxxxxx, totally different hardware and also with inferior craftmanship in my opinion. I have only seen the first series Tokais in Finland.
I would avoid the latter ones.
Matti
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Ozeshin said:
The serial of my MiC SG 8)
Notice the same ****** green tuners?
You should get yourself some Gotoh SD90 machine heads Ozeshin, much better quality and better looking than those green things, mine only cost about $50 and slot straight in, use a small G clamp to seat the new collars.
Mine has no serial number or Made in China on the headstock
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Okay, So I'm not "snobby" because if i was im sure i would already have a Japanese, Or even a gibson.
In the post it didnt say anything about the guitar, no info on the model, where it was made... It didn't say anything. I had to research what it was and i still didn't get any results.
The guy refused pickup, but he was in ireland and im not about to go to ireland for a ?400 guitar so this didnt bother me.
And yes, The veneer thing is "in my head" because its just... all through our house we have gibsons and fenders and there isnt anything fake about them, so... it puts me off.
In the post it didnt say anything about the guitar, no info on the model, where it was made... It didn't say anything. I had to research what it was and i still didn't get any results.
The guy refused pickup, but he was in ireland and im not about to go to ireland for a ?400 guitar so this didnt bother me.
And yes, The veneer thing is "in my head" because its just... all through our house we have gibsons and fenders and there isnt anything fake about them, so... it puts me off.
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chris945 said:
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much neater finish on this Chinese Love Rock
chris945 wrote:
all through our house we have gibsons and fenders and there isnt anything fake about them, so... it puts me off.
My dad has a Gibson 335, A Gibson Blueshawk (A BEAST), Fender Tele From sometime in the 70's, a Fender strat, another strat, and a few other things... like a 69 fender P Bass
And they are all genuine and stuff, so makes me feel crap
I am selling the Chinese sometime soon, Gonna buy a Japanese one, better build quality, all round good guitar basically
Anyone in the UK wanna buy it
AlanN
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I'm not sure a 70s Fender is anything but a genuine piece of chipboard
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About 5 times a day we see buyers lob in this forum who COULD have asked their questions BEFORE they bought the guitar but instead..come here and do as you've done...bought the guitar and then get the answer they didn't want.chris945 said:
A post with the auction link would have gotten the job done and we wouldn't need this thread :-?
Sorry if I seem to be coming of as harsh...but it really is buyer beware.
The forums are here to advise people BEFORE they do anything rash...not hold their hands AFTER they make a mistake.
Yet...if you google Tokai I believe we're the number 2 and 3 hit on the very first Google page.
Look...I'm not so much as having a go at you as pointing out that ALL the people at these forums do research on EVERY guitar purchase we make(God bless Google and Wiki)...the info was there.
I'd still like to see the auction link to see how this guy advertised the guitar...just out of curiosity.
Look...I'm not so much as having a go at you as pointing out that ALL the people at these forums do research on EVERY guitar purchase we make(God bless Google and Wiki)...the info was there.
I'd still like to see the auction link to see how this guy advertised the guitar...just out of curiosity.
AlanN
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chris945 said:haha, well the Tele weighs a tonne, so I'm guessing its not chipboard
Oh no, chipboard is pretty heavy.
70s Fenders are part of the reason Tokai existed in the way it did from '79 onwards!
