1982-83 Springy Sound Decal change....

[Contourbody]

Hi.
Please can someone identify the 58 Strat model that I've recently acquired, as featured in the attached JPEGs?
Note. The guitar came in a tweed case, pink velour lining, would this have been originally supplied with the guitar?

Many thanks. David

 

[Sigmania]

Looks like a block logo springy made in January 1983.

Block logo guitars were sent to the UK.

Likely an ST50. Does it have U pickups?

Also, model name changed from ST to TST around this time.

You could call it a 1983 ST or TST50 BB.

 

[Sigmania]

And those cases were sold separately. The pink lined version with the brown vinyl cover and spaghetti logo badge was phased out in 1981 I believe.

TOKAI Strat & Bass Cases

 

[Contourbody]

Looks like a block logo springy made in January 1983.

Block logo guitars were sent to the UK.

Likely an ST50. Does it have U pickups?

Also, model name changed from ST to TST around this time.

You could call it a 1983 ST or TST50 BB.

Thanks, Sigmania.
Yes, it does indeed have U Pickups, as alternative to the E's.
Interesting that the block logo models were sent only to the UK, I wonder why that was? Knew that Fender were pretty twitchy at the time with IP issues and inferior quality of their comparative manufacturing output, but, thereafter, I draw a blank ..?
I've had a number of US strats and this one's up there with the very best of them.
Incidentally, the tweed case has no Tokai logo affixed to it.
Best, David.

 

[Contourbody]

And those cases were sold separately. The pink lined version with the brown vinyl cover and spaghetti logo badge was phased out in 1981 I believe.

TOKAI Strat & Bass Cases

Yes, indeed, believe mine to be this case:
1980 (ST-130, Lifton style faux leather)

 

[Sigmania]

Yes, indeed, believe mine to be this case:
1980 (ST-130, Lifton style faux leather)

Cool. That’s not tweed though.

If it’s tweed with pink lining and no badge then it’s probably not a Tokai case. Can you post pictures of it?

 

[Sigmania]

Thanks, Sigmania.
Yes, it does indeed have U Pickups, as alternative to the E's.
Interesting that the block logo models were sent only to the UK, I wonder why that was? Knew that Fender were pretty twitchy at the time with IP issues and inferior quality of their comparative manufacturing output, but, thereafter, I draw a blank ..?
I've had a number of US strats and this one's up there with the very best of them.
Incidentally, the tweed case has no Tokai logo affixed to it.
Best, David.

There was a lawsuit in the UK in 1982 between the distributors of Fender (Arbiter) and Tokai (Blue Suede Music). The block logo was a response to the judgment of the court re: the phrase on the spaghetti logo decals including the word "Strat" on Springys.

 

[Sigmania]

And not sure if you have noticed, but you have the 3 piece "Rock and Roll Fanatics" version of the block logo Springy decal.

1982/83 Block Logo Gallery

 

[Sigmania]

And curious to know what your serial number is? I have been trying to log these in association with the production codes.

 

[Sigmania]

Here is a collection of 3 piece script logo decals that phased in around this same time presumably for other markets.

3 Piece Script Logo Goldstar Decals 1982/83

 

[Contourbody]

Thanks, Sigmania.
Yes, it does indeed have U Pickups, as alternative to the E's.
Interesting that the block logo models were sent only to the UK, I wonder why that was? Knew that Fender were pretty twitchy at the time with IP issues and inferior quality of their comparative manufacturing output, but, thereafter, I draw a blank ..?
I've had a number of US strats and this one's up there with the very best of them.
Incidentally, the tweed case has no Tokai logo affixed to it.
Best, David.

Cool. That’s not tweed though.

If it’s tweed with pink lining and no badge then it’s probably not a Tokai case. Can you post pictures of it?

Don't have the case with me ATM, the guitar's at the tech's. Certainly the interior layout and colour is the same as the 1980 Lifton. I'll get back to you. Thanks, again...

 

[Contourbody]

And curious to know what your serial number is? I have been trying to log these in association with the production codes.

 

[Contourbody]

13583, Sigmania, thanks,

 

[Contourbody]

There was a lawsuit in the UK in 1982 between the distributors of Fender (Arbiter) and Tokai (Blue Suede Music). The block logo was a response to the judgment of the court re: the phrase on the spaghetti logo decals including the word "Strat" on Springys.

Thank you, interesting indeed...

 

[Contourbody]

And not sure if you have noticed, but you have the 3 piece "Rock and Roll Fanatics" version of the block logo Springy decal.

1982/83 Block Logo Gallery

View attachment 19034

'3 piece", any significance?
Thanks...

 

[Sigmania]

'3 piece", any significance?
Thanks...

It was apparently a rushed response to the lawsuit. By mid 1983 the decals were all one piece.

 

[Contourbody]

And not sure if you have noticed, but you have the 3 piece "Rock and Roll Fanatics" version of the block logo Springy decal.

1982/83 Block Logo Gallery

View attachment 19034

Made in Japan by rock and roll fanatics"

SN 11052
SN 11058 (December)
SN 11259
SN 11279
SN 12868
SN 13583
So, suggests mine's early 83ish?
Thanks....

 

[Contourbody]

It was apparently a rushed response to the lawsuit. By mid 1983 the decals were all one piece.

 

[Sigmania]

Your guitar:

Buy the Tokai 1983 Springy Sound Black Maple Fingerboard Block Logo (Pre-Owned) #13583

 

[Sigmania]

Made in Japan by rock and roll fanatics"

SN 11052
SN 11058 (December)
SN 11259
SN 11279
SN 12868
SN 13583
So, suggests mine's early 83ish?
Thanks....

Like I said before, January 1983.

The "1" on your neck is January.