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How to tell a fake tokai
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chris945
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: How to tell a fake tokai Reply with quote

Okay,

So, Me thinks i have a Fake tokai love rock, Things about it, just don't seem right...

The serial number is very short, the headstock is different to ANY other tokai i've ever seen, the build quality is crap, the bridge height adjustment things have a flat head screw hole thing in the top, which apparently means they are fake. and the "Tokai" on the headstock looks too... well not inlayed? would pictures help?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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would pictures help?


Yes

Sometimes things are hard to visualise from a description.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought so... Pictures of what specifically? Like the bridge, headstock...? anything else?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not an expert by any means, but the guys generally like to see serial, bridge, headstock, TRC and under the pickups. Shot of the whole guitar is useful as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Well I am changing the strings tomorrow, so I Will take pictures of all of those.

But one question... what does TRC mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...truss rod cover=TRC.
A shot of the rear of the headstock as well please
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, that actually makes sense what else on a guitar would be "TRC"

Yeah i will have them uploaded tomorrow (for me, cos im UK)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it have 'MAKE IN KOREA" written on the back of the headstock?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, All it has is a serial number, which seems too short and not right as well, its 200353... and i cannot work out a date from this... and all the other tokai serials i know of are longer than this.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, So i took some pictures of the guitar. Here they are, lots of things about this seem to be "un-tokai".

Pickup Cavities:

The Bridge (notice Screw heads not the normal) :

The back of the pickup (Not really relevant but they aren't tokai's so this is weird) :

Front of the headstock, To me the "Tokai" doesn't look right:

Back of the headstock, Serial number doesn't make any sense and notice the crack on the A string tuner:


I would like to hear back soonish. If Possible

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woah the pictures are HUGE, Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im no expert but it looks like a MIC Tokai, all I am basing this on that its just like the MIC's Tokais in my local music shop, build quality and finish total crap, messy joins at neck etc.

Im sure somone more knowledgeable will be able to help and prob put me right too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its supposedly a chinese... but things about it just seem too badly done, Like not saying ANYWHERE where it is made, the serial number is rubbish, rubbish hardware.

My mates chinese tokai has the right kind of gibson bridge attachments which is also weird.

I kind of want it to be fake so it gives me and excuse to buy a proper japanese one

So tell me its fake people.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks exactly like the guitars I saw during my latest trip in London. Not near the quality I have seen in MIC Tokai guitars here in Finland. Also the serial numbers are shorter. What is going on here ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, but something is wrong with it I'm sure. There is no way to work out the date from this, like at all.

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