Please Help Me Figure Out What I Have

[pedalGEEK]

Hi,

Ive been lurking here on and off for years, but just started posting.

I would appreciate any help you can give me in ID-ing this new purchase. I believe it came from a member here, LarryC. I bought it on eBay. It's a 1980 Greco EGF-1200 Super Real. The serial # looks like 0 5617.

I expected this guitar to have a long tenon, but it has a short/dowell tenon. Is this normal for this guitar in this year? I also expected the bridge and TP to have similar markings to a 1980 Greco EGF 850/950 (I'm not sure which) that I already own, but the TP has no markings and the Bridge only reads. "JAPAN." My 850/950 bridge and TP read as follows:

TP: "F.G.T. 8001 MADE IN JAPAN"
Bridge: "SG Bridge F 8107 MADE IN JAPAN"

Pictures of the EGF1200:
Bridge and Tailpiece
Neck Tenon
Headstock
Pickups
Control Cavity
2 Piece Back
Guitar

Thank you!

 

[pedalGEEK]

Just added a few new pics to the original post. One of the control cavity which does not look like original solder joints on anything except the neck tone control. And one of the 2-piece back.

 

[triniloverock]

Looks like a legit EGF 1200 to me.

The control cavity looks fine, solder joints look untouched, 500k pots, with the black FUJICON caps.

Off center seam 2 piece back, which is fine, I have seen 1200s with 2,3 and 4 piece backs, never with a 1 piece back.

Tenon is an early 1980 doweled tenon.

Definitely has been "loved" judging from the nitro chips.
Is this the one with alot of dings on the back of the neck?

Just added a few new pics to the original post. One of the control cavity which does not look like original solder joints on anything except the neck tone control. And one of the 2-piece back.

 

[pedalGEEK]

Definitely has been "loved" judging from the nitro chips.
Is this the one with alot of dings on the back of the neck?

Yes, that's the one.

 

[jacco]

I have to disagree Trini.
The bridge pickup is non original; it has a date of october 14 1981 while the guitar is from 1980. The neck pickup is from feb 8 1980. Also you can see that the soldering of the bridge pup has been touched and the wire not located in the right place.

The dowel tenon is normal for this period, yours is one of the very first high end Greco's that were made, I haven't logged any 1200 or 1800 with lower serial number than 5200.

Here is my 1980 EGF1800, 2P back, dowel tenon, also in the 5000 range.

 

[triniloverock]

Yeh, I guess the bridge pup is indeed not original, and the soldering looks altered, now that I see jacco's 1200.
Either way, its a 1200, not many around...so worth every penny.

 

[jacco]

Mine is an 1800

 

[triniloverock]

Mine is an 1800

****, that is sweet!

I noticed your black shielding paint is gone, did you remove it yourself?
What works best, a wet rag or some other paint remover?
I have seen the shielding in the pup cavity get kind of silvery when the pickups wires scratch it, just wondering how easy it comes off

 

[jacco]

I can't help you, none of my 1800s have shielding paint or ever had. But there must someone here who did that.

 

[pedalGEEK]

Thanks for the assist, guys! Beautiful guitar, jacco!

 

[CliffsGuitarWorld]

Jacco,


Log these EGF-1200 serial number that are below 4000.. one is former of mine and the lowest serial # 1981 I still have...

 

[jacco]

Cheers Cliff! I now see I wasn't very clear, I meant in 1980.

 

[CliffsGuitarWorld]

Aloha Jacco.......Ah,,, Very good... For all intesnsive purposes... here are a few 1980 EGF-1200 serial numbers of past lovers.... sorry cant beat below 4000 in the year 1980.... Mahalo... Cliff

 

[Juni41]

0 5617, 0 5625 and 0 5754 are the earlier 1200 I have log until today.

I believe 1200s weren't introduce at the same time as the 1800, only a few months later.
Look at the 80' super real catalogs, the 1200 isn't in the first, there is only the 1800.

But there is also some very rare "limited edition" in 79 like this H79#### 1200/1800 with solid top:

 

[villager]

when the 1200 was launched, it became the highest production model, and the 1800 was changed to read ''order made''

thats what my Japanese buyer says..

that ltd edition is beautiful..

I remember bidding on that but it went very high if i remember rightly

 

[brokentoes]

OMG that limited edition !!

I think i just jizzed my pants.

 

[Anonymous]

I think i just jizzed my pants.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[marcusnieman]

Yeah, the retinas of my eyes are scorched.

 

[Juni41]

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
What a timing.
Now on yahoo :

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k153299543

Outrageous price however.........

 

[bluesyrat]

Outrageous

well, absurde... is it justified? perhaps no, until someone will place a bid... :roll: