I think you’re exactly right. I went back and changed things and eliminated the VI.Here's a thought: are we certain there actually is such a thing as a "VI" pickup?
I've thought of it before, because looking at pics of pups that have been interpreted as VI, they often look like they could just as easily be VII. Two I's, only close enough together to smudge together to what looks like a thick I if applied sloppily?
As far as I know, the catalog designations are "ST Vintage" and ST Vintage Mk II", right? If so, just V and VII would work fine to tell them apart. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have a third pup type called "Vintage Mk I" if you already have the basic "Vintage" designation in use?
I haven't got access to my pics right now, but I might have something in there.
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I think you nailed it!...As far as I know, the catalog designations are "ST Vintage" and ST Vintage Mk II", right? If so, just V and VII would work fine to tell them apart. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have a third pup type called "Vintage Mk I" if you already have the basic "Vintage" designation in use?...
Hi guys,
The VII pickups were the replacements for the 'U' pickups during 1984 Goldstar models. Both pickups are regarded as Vintage MkII.
This pickguard is not 100% though. The pots aren't original and the brass ground plate is missing.
Curiously the stamp is back to front - IIV instead of VII - and the colour is different also.
Incedently, the pickguard with the 'U' pickups is original
Peter Mac
Hi Everyone -
I'm hoping one of you can help us here at Folkway Music.
We have a left handed TST (or TST55L) in stock that we are unable to date. It has prospec saddles, deluxe-stamped tuning machines, Fender-shaped headstock, 7.25" rosewood curved board, L22817 serial number, greybottom pickups ink-stamped VII, Goldstar Sound logo and "Oldies but Goldies" decal. The body is black finished alder. 4=8BB stamp on body and 4=8 neck stamp. It has a shallow C neck profile, and lug-neck bolts.
I think that about covers it.
Any thoughts??
Thanks,
Mark
The original pickups are VII (Vintage II), they sound fantastic!!
Strat tone and Stevie Ray galore! I think their better than the one's in the Silver Stars market U or H. Those sound good on low volumes, but they can't handle lots of overdrive. So if you're not afraid of the hum from single coils try to get them!
Hi guys,
...VII pickups were released in late '83 and integrated throughout '84 with the 'U' pups they replaced.
Peter Mac
Hi avoncliff,
I have a little idea . . .
From 1978 - 1984 the grey bobbins were
ST Vintage (E) = 5.7 ohm avg
ST Vintage MkII (U) = 6.2 ohm avg
1983 - 1987
ST Vintage (V) = 5.7 ohm avg
ST Vintage MkII (VII) = 6.2 ohm avg - or even "IIV"
All have wax covered cloth wire of Black (ground) and white (live) and staggered pole pieces. These are for the ST models.
Early ST-42 and ST-45 models has a ceramic magnet pickup but this was stopped by 1980
For the SS models the bobbins were black with Black and Blue wires, levelled pole pieces and were 'H' Hot or 'S' Super. In 1983 these bobbins became grey and the letters were stamped onto the base, similar to the ST series.
In all, the 'E' series are the most sought after. As far as the 'T' model goes, I have not seen them, so they could be from 1990 and later models.
Peter
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