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1985/86 Goldstar

https://reverb.com/uk/item/36093731...-1984-cream-white-fender-stratocaster-reissue

https://reverb.com/item/38271298-tokai-goldstar-stratocaster-olympic-white

SN 209815


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Voidoid56 said:
S/N 222587

  • V II pickups and Klusons so should be TST-50GS (despite 1954 detail, like a button string tree)
  • Pot codes are March 1987
  • Final Prospec bridge
  • Production codes separated by a dash, not =
  • Routs without pickup screw indentations, no control brass plate
  • Neck stamp is 5 -17, body stamp lost to screening paint

Actually one of the nicest STs/TSTs I've had.

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http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26343&p=198775&hilit=six+digit+goldstars#p198775

Other guitars with the hyphen, dash or minus sign in the production code:

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26824
 

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Sigmania said:
Anyone know which guitars these "V" pickups came in ?
My Ast '56 has V pickups.Aren't those V pickups not the replacments for the E's ?Then they have to be in ST60's and above.

The SS60 bullet trussrod has grey's with blue and black wires.
 

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Not really sure. There are also some marked VI and some marked VII.
 
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My Ast '56 has V pickups.Aren't those V pickups not the replacments for the E's ?Then they have to be in ST60's and above.

The SS60 bullet trussrod has grey's with blue and black wires.

Apparently “V” marked pickups = C.A.R. (California Accurate Reproduction) pickups.

AST56
• Solid 2 pcs. contoured alder body
• One pce hard rock maple neck
• Vintage style 4 bolt neck
• 25.5" scale length
•"V" shape neck contour
• Vintage style tuning machines
• 3 single coil C.A.R. (California Accurate Reproduction) pickups
• 5 way selector, vol. 2 tone
• Vintage style single layer pickguard
• Variable tension 2 pcs vintage vibrato. Chrome plated
• Finishes: BB, BL, CR, FO, GM, GS, LB, MR, OF, OR, OW, SW, YSO
• Available left handed same finishes
• Tweed case


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I think I mis read your post. Are you asking if the U and E pickups were still used in 1985?

Doesn’t look like it.

Here are a set of “VII” marked pickups in a guitar I was able to date to May of 1984. A TST55L.

Mysterious "V" And "Y" Marks


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And I’m not clear on all of this, but those seem to be the replacement for the U pickups that were in ST50s? V apparently replaced the E pickups?

No idea if they are actually the same pickups. That’s why I suggested measuring them. Let us know if you do.
 
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My belief is that the TST-56 & 62 were replaced by the AST-56 & 62. I could be wrong, but seems like an alignment with how they started using the T in other lines in 1984.

That’s why I started collecting examples of all of them, to sort out the timeline.

TST-56 Gallery

TST-62 Gallery

AST-56 Gallery

AST-62 Gallery

So far, the serial numbers on AST-56 & 62 are the only ones I have found that extend into the six digit 2xxxxx scheme that dates to 1986/87. So they seem later.

Also, that “export logo” or "fat script" logo used on the TST-56 & 62 was an early script, 1982/83.
 
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The V's on the AST '56 read 6.33kOhm all three.
The E's on the St100 N 5,99kOhm,M 5,97kOhm and B 5,93kOhm.
The E's on the St80 N 6,11kOhm,M 5,95kOhm and B 5,96kOhm.
 

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Hmmm. Close, but could be different pickups.

Would be great to have more samples from other folks though.
 
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Anyone know which guitars these "V" pickups came in?

Or anything else about them?

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early 80s Tokai pickups....authentic and worth it?
The V pickups are identical I believe to the E pick ups which they super ceded in some ,but not all higher end ST60s and ST80s from 84 to 86. They were also fitted to modified headstock AST s in the States , where the were referred as C.A.R. California Accurate Reproduction pickups.
 
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Like this? But the TST headstock.

1984 catalog

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Here's a thought: are we certain there actually is such a thing as a "VI" pickup?

I've thought of it before, because looking at pics of pups that have been interpreted as VI, they often look like they could just as easily be VII. Two I's, only close enough together to smudge together to what looks like a thick I if applied sloppily?

As far as I know, the catalog designations are "ST Vintage" and ST Vintage Mk II", right? If so, just V and VII would work fine to tell them apart. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have a third pup type called "Vintage Mk I" if you already have the basic "Vintage" designation in use?

I haven't got access to my pics right now, but I might have something in there.

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