Tokai Single Coil Pickups
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settebello
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My Ast '56 has V pickups.Aren't those V pickups not the replacments for the E's ?Then they have to be in ST60's and above.Sigmania said:
The SS60 bullet trussrod has grey's with blue and black wires.
2009
Made In Japan, no serial number.
Date stamped.
'09 9.17 (Sept 17, 2009)
'09 9.24 (Sept 24, 2009)
2009 Tokai Japan Goldstar Sound Strat Sunburst Guitar w/ Fender G&G Case | eBay
Made In Japan, no serial number.
Date stamped.
'09 9.17 (Sept 17, 2009)
'09 9.24 (Sept 24, 2009)
2009 Tokai Japan Goldstar Sound Strat Sunburst Guitar w/ Fender G&G Case | eBay
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Apparently “V” marked pickups = C.A.R. (California Accurate Reproduction) pickups.
AST56
• Solid 2 pcs. contoured alder body
• One pce hard rock maple neck
• Vintage style 4 bolt neck
• 25.5" scale length
•"V" shape neck contour
• Vintage style tuning machines
• 3 single coil C.A.R. (California Accurate Reproduction) pickups
• 5 way selector, vol. 2 tone
• Vintage style single layer pickguard
• Variable tension 2 pcs vintage vibrato. Chrome plated
• Finishes: BB, BL, CR, FO, GM, GS, LB, MR, OF, OR, OW, SW, YSO
• Available left handed same finishes
• Tweed case
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settebello
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I know they call them C.A.R.,but are there still E and U pups in'85?
Not sure. Have you measured the resistance? I assume you have them in your AST-56?
Peter Mac had stated that the E pickups averaged 5.7k ohm and not higher than 5.9. Might check and see if it’s close to that?
What Did I Buy? Is it really an 1985 AST-50 Please help :-)
Peter Mac had stated that the E pickups averaged 5.7k ohm and not higher than 5.9. Might check and see if it’s close to that?
What Did I Buy? Is it really an 1985 AST-50 Please help :-)
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I think I mis read your post. Are you asking if the U and E pickups were still used in 1985?
Doesn’t look like it.
Here are a set of “VII” marked pickups in a guitar I was able to date to May of 1984. A TST55L.
Mysterious "V" And "Y" Marks
And I’m not clear on all of this, but those seem to be the replacement for the U pickups that were in ST50s? V apparently replaced the E pickups?
No idea if they are actually the same pickups. That’s why I suggested measuring them. Let us know if you do.
Doesn’t look like it.
Here are a set of “VII” marked pickups in a guitar I was able to date to May of 1984. A TST55L.
Mysterious "V" And "Y" Marks
And I’m not clear on all of this, but those seem to be the replacement for the U pickups that were in ST50s? V apparently replaced the E pickups?
No idea if they are actually the same pickups. That’s why I suggested measuring them. Let us know if you do.
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My belief is that the TST-56 & 62 were replaced by the AST-56 & 62. I could be wrong, but seems like an alignment with how they started using the T in other lines in 1984.
That’s why I started collecting examples of all of them, to sort out the timeline.
TST-56 Gallery
TST-62 Gallery
AST-56 Gallery
AST-62 Gallery
So far, the serial numbers on AST-56 & 62 are the only ones I have found that extend into the six digit 2xxxxx scheme that dates to 1986/87. So they seem later.
Also, that “export logo” or "fat script" logo used on the TST-56 & 62 was an early script, 1982/83.
That’s why I started collecting examples of all of them, to sort out the timeline.
TST-56 Gallery
TST-62 Gallery
AST-56 Gallery
AST-62 Gallery
So far, the serial numbers on AST-56 & 62 are the only ones I have found that extend into the six digit 2xxxxx scheme that dates to 1986/87. So they seem later.
Also, that “export logo” or "fat script" logo used on the TST-56 & 62 was an early script, 1982/83.
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settebello
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The V's on the AST '56 read 6.33kOhm all three.
The E's on the St100 N 5,99kOhm,M 5,97kOhm and B 5,93kOhm.
The E's on the St80 N 6,11kOhm,M 5,95kOhm and B 5,96kOhm.
The E's on the St100 N 5,99kOhm,M 5,97kOhm and B 5,93kOhm.
The E's on the St80 N 6,11kOhm,M 5,95kOhm and B 5,96kOhm.
bluejeannot
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The V pickups are identical I believe to the E pick ups which they super ceded in some ,but not all higher end ST60s and ST80s from 84 to 86. They were also fitted to modified headstock AST s in the States , where the were referred as C.A.R. California Accurate Reproduction pickups.Anyone know which guitars these "V" pickups came in?
Or anything else about them?
early 80s Tokai pickups....authentic and worth it?
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bluejeannot
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Very cool. I have been wondering which guitars had them and when.
bluejeannot
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Very cool. I have been wondering which guitars had them and when.
bluejeannot
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My ST 80 which came fitted with VS1s
bluejeannot
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It's an 84. Slab fingerboard,nitro finish,A stamped celluloid pickguard. lightweight alder body. An unusual guitar.
Here's a thought: are we certain there actually is such a thing as a "VI" pickup?
I've thought of it before, because looking at pics of pups that have been interpreted as VI, they often look like they could just as easily be VII. Two I's, only close enough together to smudge together to what looks like a thick I if applied sloppily?
As far as I know, the catalog designations are "ST Vintage" and ST Vintage Mk II", right? If so, just V and VII would work fine to tell them apart. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have a third pup type called "Vintage Mk I" if you already have the basic "Vintage" designation in use?
I haven't got access to my pics right now, but I might have something in there.
I've thought of it before, because looking at pics of pups that have been interpreted as VI, they often look like they could just as easily be VII. Two I's, only close enough together to smudge together to what looks like a thick I if applied sloppily?
As far as I know, the catalog designations are "ST Vintage" and ST Vintage Mk II", right? If so, just V and VII would work fine to tell them apart. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have a third pup type called "Vintage Mk I" if you already have the basic "Vintage" designation in use?
I haven't got access to my pics right now, but I might have something in there.
