Goldstar sound 22 fret ?

[stratoVintage]

Hi all , my name is Marc and i just buy a tokai goldstar sound 1984 but i never seen a goldstar sound before with 22 fret . Take a look at the pics and give me your opinion please .

http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK996547cdbd822e7e4
http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK508647cdbd5d13163
http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK469547cdbda8903da
http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK883147cdbdc998217
http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK567147cdbdf07ddcd

BETTER PICS HERE

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320222298539&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=011
Marc

 

[Anonymous]

I bought a Tokai Strat neck with 22 frets a year or so ago from eBay, & I very much doubt that it's genuine. It's strange, it has a separate maple board, so no skunk stripe, and the fingerboard overhangs the end of the neck - does yours do that? It's hard to tell from the photos.

http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x153/stratman323/Tokai%2022%20fret%20maple%20neck/

I don't recall ever seeing a genuine 22 fret Goldstar, so I assume mine is a fake. The seller also described it as nitro finished, but I'm sure it isn't. It was cheap though, so it has provided a reasonable guitar for a friend who is learning guitar - I fitted it to a Sqiuer body. The neck is also chunkier and fatter than any of the maple neck Goldstars I've tried.

Whatever your new one is, it's not a 1982 - Goldstars with that script decal first arrived in London in late 1983, though most people say 1984. The underside of the scratchplate is wrong for a Goldstar too - it doesn't have the brass plate under the pots, but I think the ad states that it's Fender? Sorry, my French is terrible!

Hope this is some help.

Mike

 

[stratoVintage]

Thank you for answer . The seller is french and just answer me that he bought it in london 8 years ago in a shop called asian guiatre and he have a lot of takai ( springy , love rock etc ... ) he is sure of the origine he tell me that the neck is an extreme quality . Pickguard and electronic is from fender usa because he bought it without electronic at this moment.The fingerboard don't overhangs at the end of the neck
The indication on the neck is 2_19 ( _ means 8 ) so guitare ( at least the neck ) from 1982 . May be the neck come from a 1982 guitare ?

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, doesn't sound right to me. First, I've never heard of a shop in London called Asian Guitar. Second, to get a 22 fret fingerboard on a Strat, the board needs to overhang - if you try to fit 22 frets into the space for 21, it will screw everything up. Won't it? :-?

Third, Goldstars just weren't being made in 1982 - check the Registry. Sprngys were still made in 1982, & in 1983, Tokai made first the block decal Springys, then block decal Goldstars, and then script decal Goldstars very late in 83.

I'm afraid I'm not at all convinced that it is genuine - maybe somebody else will know. It's usually better to check on the authenticity of a guitar before you buy it, not after.

 

[stratoVintage]

Thank you for your answer but it seems to me that a fret was added at the end of the neck when it was scalloped .The space between the two last frets is very small . This is the explication but i don't understand why they did that.
Wathever this guitar sound like a dream, fabulous tone .

 

[luis]

Only strats with 22 fret are Fernandes FST very late 70?s made.....they were trying to follow Schecter that was very fashioned at that time....
Never seen any Tokai replica with 22 fret.

 

[Kenmac]

You guys aren't the only ones with 22 fret Goldstars. I've got one with 22 frets as well. I should really take a few pictures of it one day and post the photos as I'm sure people would find it to be quite interesting.

 

[Anonymous]

Very interesting. It it 22 frets in the usual space for 21? Or with an overhang like some modern Fenders have?

 

[cheshirecatsmile]

Hi,
I have a Goldstar with an obvious add-on 22nd fret. It's a slightly different width than the other ones, so mine is not too well done. Considering the other customization on your guitar (cool scallops!) I wouldn't be surprised if this were an added fret--there is space enough on a Goldstar neck to do this.

The stamps on the neck probably don't have much to do with the year of manufacture--there are a couple of competing theories about what the neck stamps mean (you can search the Forum for these), but for certain your guitar's neck was not made before late 1983, and probably not after 1985 or so, based on the logo and the headstock shape.

http://www.tokairegistry.com/tokai-info/tokai-fender.html

Looks pretty cool...
Enjoy!
________
ECIG FORUM

 

[Anonymous]

OK. I am seriously drunk. So I counted 2 times on the Springys, one 84 Goldtstar and on a genuine Fender 63.

21 is the answer I got to and I just don't understand why anybody would add a 22nd fret. Weird. This does not compute.

I know that Warmoth does this type of neck (22), as does Rockinger. But both do it with the afore mentioned "overhang" and to my understanding they do it for for the korean made bodies (of course I can be wrong) with the metrical neck cavity.

Btw: first time in my life I counted frets.

Cheers! Rup

 

[Anonymous]

OK. I am seriously drunk................

Btw: first time in my life I counted frets.

Cheers! Rup

Don't worry about it Rup - MIJvintage has got me counting the number of bits of wood that make up the bodies of my Strats - I would never have thought of doing that before joining this forum!

Cheers!

Mike

 

[cheshirecatsmile]

I just don't understand why anybody would add a 22nd fret

If you play lots of high solos I suppose it might make it easier to play certain things. From the looks of this guitar, the previous owner probably liked to play high solos! :lol:

________
Cloudy trichomes

 

[stratoVintage]

After an high inspection with a specialist ( excuse my english ! i'm french lol )
the verdict is :

Original neck , no doubt but it was refreted with one more than normal. usualy it is 21 fret ( of course ) but there is enough place to add one more, it was done by the previous owner .

The body : Not a 1984 body . It is a 1986 tokai strat body ( serial 4 digits + date write in the neck cavity ) respray in black . ( don't ask me why ! lol ).

I put a unique malmsteen pickguard on it with a set of Fender vintage noiseless pickups.

Pics of the pickguard :

http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK939647d020c96f1ac



Anyway , this guitar sound like a dream .
Thank you men for your answers !!! it is C O O L !!

ROCK ON !!!!

 

[Kenmac]

I'm going to make a separate posting of it with some pictures and the story behind it. It's a guitar with a pretty interesting history.

Very interesting. It it 22 frets in the usual space for 21? Or with an overhang like some modern Fenders have?

 

[stratoVintage]

i just finish respray it properly . It is beautifull .

Pics : http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK869147d27af2dad57

 

[dylan]

Looks good

The 22nd fret does look a bit odd to me, compared to a Fender 22nd fret (see link) the spacing looks a little narrow but I am bit surprised there was space for a 22nd on a 21 fret neck. Interesting.

http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/dylan_tokai/22fret.jpg

 

[stratoVintage]

Somes pics closer .

http://www.neufgiga.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK887847d2d7cf0bed9

 

[Anonymous]

I hope those frets are more comfortable than they look.... :-?

 

[stratoVintage]

sure they are ! vintage frets for a vintage neck lol

 

[Anonymous]

Really? They look like much bigger frets in the pic. And it doesn't look like a great re-fretting job either... :-?