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Sigmania

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I just spotted something really cool in Peter's book.

Note the catalog dates!

Script logo guitars in a catalog printed March 1983!!!

Having that date confirms what I had been thinking. That it was a mid year change in 1983.

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"Transition Models : BLOCK style for the European market

In late-82 the logo altered to a BLOCK lettering with the low flyer altered to 'MADE IN JAPAN BY ROCK AND ROLL FANATICS'.

This logo was used in late 82 / early 83 and was shipped with both Springy Sound and the new Goldstar Sound decals. These were offered to the U.K. market and some parts of Europe, whilst Asia (including Australia) still used the Spaghetti logo.

Interestingly, no catalogs were released showing the Block logo - 1982 Vol 6 (printed Dec '82) shows the spaghetti Springy logo whilst 1983 Vol 7 (printed Mar '83) shows the script Goldstar logo."


Tokai: The Vintage Guitars 1977 to 1986 by Peter McGovern
 
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I use Imagebb for pictures.
I wonder if the Tokai publications dept were like some others, in that they sometimes used old photo images in later catalogues to save time and money etc
Also catalogues would be different, especially for the US Market.
 

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They definitely reused pictures from day one. The very first catalog with color pictures in 1978 (?) used many of the same pictures in the second catalog.

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Not sure what of this is original?

Tuners obviously changed.

The interesting thing to me is that it has datable pots. They date to August 1984 (38).

Other interesting thing is the VII (MKII) pickups are in it already.

And one more interesting thing is the round string tree because the VII (MKII) pickups were in TST50's.

So Partscaster?

Wish I could see the serial number and neck & body codes.

Maybe someone bought this that will show up here?

Calling Tokai experts

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My 81 VSB with a removed Spag and replaced with Script Logo. So I assume it was not shipped in 81 and was possibly modified later in 82?
Plus this odd ball bass that looks more of a 70's made guitar. Did Tokai have this Script Logo all along before the Fender threats etc?
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My 81 VSB 80 also the ghost imprint of the same spaghetti logo lurking under the later script logo.This was done at the factory it seems ,and more than once too! Why though?
 

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Yep.

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The spaghetti logo is different. It was held up in a lawsuit because of the word “Strat”.

Maybe the block logo guitar above had the word Strat in it?

I have seen a block logo where the word Strat seemed to have been possibly cut out.

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Someone must have screwed up to not catch that. Language barrier I would guess.

Then switch to rock and roll fanatics n
 

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Bizarre to see this after all of the dust up.

Looks like the first block logos were Springys and had the old catch phrase saying it was an exact replica of the "good old Strat" that a judge said they cannot do months before this would have been printed. So someone messed up.

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Then this

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Then

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IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE-CHANCERY DIVISION

Before: MR. JUSTICE FALCONER

8th June 1982​



"... in so far as the defendants now wish to try to secure the release of those 205 guitars bearing that infringing mark "Strat", possibly on the basis of being able to delete the infringing mark, they must follow the procedure which is set out in the appropriate statute relating to the position"

Lawsuit?
 

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I may need to rethink this notion that the pickups changed with the new modles in 1984.

I am seeing some Super Editions with numbers I thought were from 1984 with U pickups.

Hard to say when these numbers actually occured without pot dates.

Super Edition TSD Guitars
 

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