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Best early Tokai Les Paul model?
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pharold38
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Best early Tokai Les Paul model? Reply with quote

I'd be interested to hear people's opinions about what they consider to be the best Tokai Les Paul copy from the 1970-80's.

Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, all of them are great ...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I have seen those guitars ...very nice

Is the Les Paul Reborn LS-120 considered to be the best Les Paul copy?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there is an LS150 and very rare LS200. The LS80 upwards are considered the better copies and command the higher prices. The LS50\60 are a lot more readily available, aren't quite as good in comparison and that is reflected in their price. Still very good guitars though.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reborns/reborn olds and 1980/81 love rocks are all very good from the LS-80 upward..The 150 and 200 reborns/reborn olds and early love rocks are almost impossible to find, so I would suggest that a pre 1982 LS-120 is your best choice..
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1978 Les Paul Reborn LS-60 that is outstanding...guess it`s the only one in the world that is.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sneakyjapan wrote:
I have a 1978 Les Paul Reborn LS-60 that is outstanding...guess it`s the only one in the world that is.


Nope....I have one too (lovely cherry clownburst plaintop) that I'll never part with. Heavy as a boat anchor but just sublime tone and feel.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

basically ALL the models are very good in their own way.

up to LS80 they are solid maple top a '58 style neck but still with solid heel and 1 piece neck
after LS100 they tend to get closer to the '59 style. As most Les Paul affectionarios prefer the flamed maple tops, these tend to be the preference.

The strange thing is Gibson did make '58 and '59 LP with plain tops and they sing every bit as well as the flamed ones.

SO.... choose the top you like in the style you like and i would recommend the LP Reborn, Reborn old or any of the 80-82 love Rocks as a superior made instrument to anything Gibson produced between 1970 and 1995 [ IMHO ]

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:
sneakyjapan wrote:
I have a 1978 Les Paul Reborn LS-60 that is outstanding...guess it`s the only one in the world that is.


Nope....I have one too (lovely cherry clownburst plaintop) that I'll never part with. Heavy as a boat anchor but just sublime tone and feel.


I had to open my case and make sure mine was still here `cause you described the one I own...
When it comes to used Tokais in this city, I have to take what I can get because they just don`t come around very often...got real lucky with mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
or any of the 80-82 love Rocks as a superior made instrument to anything Gibson produced between 1970 and 1995


What happened in 1995? Did Gibson quality improve?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they started making historic type guitars
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's only the "Historic" range that are considered to be any good?

Sorry, I don't know my Gibson history nearly as well as I do my Fender history.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i consider the historics to be the best gibson make ...however i consider many LP's I own from Japan better than many historics I have owned...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks. I was a Les Paul virgin till recently, & I still think they're strange beasts...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, recently converted Tokai player, new forum member, first post. I've got a question for some of you experts... aside from the obvious pickup variations between them, is there a difference in craftsmanship, wood or hardware between the LS80s, 100s and 120s? Hopefully some of you who own these can answer. Thanks!
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