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Hunting for Burny RLG-80 'Super Grade' Models
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Glamrockmegastar
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm new around here!

Just purchased my first Burny LP and it looks very similar to MIJvintage's new RLG-80. From most of my research I am fairly sure mine is a RLG-80 as well, but am not absolutely sure.

Is there a definitive way of telling which model it would be? I have not got around to popping out the neck pickup to check wiring colour or tenon length yet.

Also when did they change from the gibson bell shaped cover to the one with the little points about halfway up, then to the palace shape.

I would post some pics but haven't worked out how to do it yet!

Thanks, Benny.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glamrock, welcome aboard the Tokai Forum

I have been refering to the plain top Burny 'Super Grade' Models that I prefer as the RLG-80 model for some time because that is what they were referenced as BUT it looks like they may actually be RLG-50 models.

Whatever the case may be as far as the model number, they are still my favorite plain top Lester.

All of my Burnys have had neck length tenons which means they are only as long as the neck itself = not a long tenon.

The change from the correct bell cover to the one with the two points sticking out, one on either side, came at approximately the mid 1980's; '85 ~ '86

Post some picks once you get that down.

These folks will help you do it FREE

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Glamrocker

The 1987 catalogue shows the old stye trussrod cover, so my guess is that the change to the winged style was as late as 1988. I have seen a super grade with a 1988 serial nr. with the winged style. In 1996 they still got the winged style, so the new style is after 1996. It was also in that year, that the Korea models was introduced, with the new style TRC.!!

I?m working on a paper on Burny models and history, just waiting for some Japan translation. I will let You all now, when it is finished!

nils
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I forgot to ask, was it the Burny from Tim?s guitars in Brisbane You have got?

If so it is a mid 80?s RLG 50 with 2 piece back, fretbinding , VH1 pickups etc.

Nice guitar

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the photo help MIJvintage, see below.

Yes nils, it is from Tym's, and yes the photos were lifted from his website before anyone complains!

Thanks for the info guys, however what separates a RLG-80 from a RLG-50?.
Cheers,
Benny.





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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don?t know.

Up until 1987 there was no RLG 80. Perhaps there was one in the mid 90.?s. From 1982 until 1987 there was a RLG 50, with solid unflamed top (like Yours) and in 82-84 many RLG 50?s had one piece backs. In 82 the pickups on the RLG 50 was L8000 pickups and VH1?s in 83. In 1986 there was a RLG 60 with flamed veneer top, but every thing else was like the RLG 50. These two (mid 80.?s) model are often called RLG 90 and RLG 80 by today's E-bay sellers. But no matter the name, these are very fine guitars !! The best You can buy for Your money to day!! If it wasn't for shipping to Denmark and tax, I have bought that guitar myself !

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glamrock, that is one sweet looking find you got there; love the finish as I prefer lemon drop, amber, and honey finish RLGs

now you will come to know why I prefer the older RLG plain tops over any other Lester out there.

they are just like any other model, there are good ones & bad ones but when you find the ones that have 'that magic' you won't ever have need for another Lester than a good plain top Burny. The goods ones are very magical indeed.

Congrats on your find
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

burny 123 is the man for burnys ..he has corrected me on a few points ...thanks nils!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only played a handful of Burnys and Grecos, never had my hands on a Love Rock at all. But the moment I picked this baby up I knew I had to have it! The problem was convincing my wife that I had to have it.
I felt like I didn't have have much of a chance as she had already said no to a Burny Firebird I was drooling over. My argument that Steve Clark looked so cool with one was not enough to convince her that it wasn't the ugliest thing she had ever seen!
So when this baby came up I showed her, and while seeming slightly more impressed she still said "no, let's pay the mortgage first". Two days later it is lying on the bed as an anniversary present!

I can honestly say that I have never played a LP comparable to this (in feel) genuine or otherwise.

PS- I'm with you MIJ, LOVE the finish on these, wouldn't want anything else!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you got the RLG; they sound better than the Firebirds and the 'Birds are notoriously neck heavy, which sucks eggs.

Welcome to the RLG plain top club
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one was pretty sweet. Weighty all over so it was quite well balanced. (but not too heavy). Love those mini-buckers! Must have just been a good one. If I came across one like this again I would have to snap it up.

While on that subject also played a Greco 'Bird recently and it sucked! It was very light. Also played a new Tokai bolt-on 'Bird. Ugh!

Another question for you, about what year did they start putting Kahlers on the customs? Did they ever go on the RLGs? Might have to chase one of those next. (it's a Steve Clark thing!)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That last question is probably more appropriate as a new topic. So I will move it along!
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