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Skybone
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm another Bare Knuckle Pickups user, both my Tokai Love Rock's have a calibrated set in them, both of the "hot vintage" variety (between 8-10k neck, 10-12k bridge, Alnico V magnets), and they suit what I'm after really well.

Used to have SD 59 & JB in my main Love Rock (Bluey), but was underwhelmed by their "clinical" sound, then a local shop started to stock Bare Knuckles so I had the opportunity to try some out. Needless to say, I'm well impressed with their sound, their service and their customer support.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I use H?ussel pickups in my Les Pauls, VinA2 neck and
Angus for the bridgeposition. Available from ACY (www.acys-lounge.de).
Those pickups catch every bit of the guitars own tone, they are very
dynamic and deliver rich overtones (if the guitar has some )

The stock pickup in my Tokai weren't that bad at all, but certainly not
nearly in the same league as the H?ussels. (I also replaced the Duncan 59
and JB in my Edwards LP Custom immediately, they sounded very compressed
and lifeless - I don't understand why so many people like them...)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BaggyPants wrote:
I replaced the ceramics in my Gibby Les Paul Classic with Lindy Fralin replica PAFs.


I like ceramics and heavy sounds.

I'm considering burstbuckers 1 & 2 but I want to make some recordings whith the stock mkII before.

I don't want a too bright sound, I'm looking for a classic les paul sound like in Stones' "brown sugar", but sometimes I like to get heavy sounds like with ceramics.

Do you think I'll be happy with burstbuckers 1 & 2?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ganzua wrote:
BaggyPants wrote:
I replaced the ceramics in my Gibby Les Paul Classic with Lindy Fralin replica PAFs.


I like ceramics and heavy sounds.

I'm considering burstbuckers 1 & 2 but I want to make some recordings whith the stock mkII before.

I don't want a too bright sound, I'm looking for a classic les paul sound like in Stones' "brown sugar", but sometimes I like to get heavy sounds like with ceramics.

Do you think I'll be happy with burstbuckers 1 & 2?


I love heavy, but I found the ceramics to be too tinny and very microphonic, because they're uncovered and not wax potted. The Fralins overdrive beautifully. Real classic Zep, Thin Lizzy etc
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ganzua wrote:
BaggyPants wrote:
I replaced the ceramics in my Gibby Les Paul Classic with Lindy Fralin replica PAFs.


I like ceramics and heavy sounds.

I'm considering burstbuckers 1 & 2 but I want to make some recordings whith the stock mkII before.

I don't want a too bright sound, I'm looking for a classic les paul sound like in Stones' "brown sugar", but sometimes I like to get heavy sounds like with ceramics.

Do you think I'll be happy with burstbuckers 1 & 2?


If you like ceramics.. not too bright.. with a big and fat sound.. I would recommend Seymour Duncan SH5 Custom for the bridge... like they say.. PAF on steroids!! I have one in one of my guitars and i'm very happy.. not so good on cleans (unless you split it or roll off the pot volume a little) because it's a hot pickup.. but it covers very well from almost clean to crunch and heavy metal too...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ganzua wrote:
I don't want a too bright sound, I'm looking for a classic les paul sound like in Stones' "brown sugar", but sometimes I like to get heavy sounds like with ceramics.
Do you think I'll be happy with burstbuckers 1 & 2?


No, Burstbuckers are not waxed. Whenever you go heavy, they go crazy. Btw. I think Gibson PUs are overpriced. Have a look at Producers like Di Marzio or SD. Or better: Find some smaller producers like H?ussel, Barfuss, Bareknuckles, Fralin, Leosounds etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
Yep, I agree with Andi - the stock Pickups are not bad!

I replaced them with H?ussels because: I missed some more open Sound with nice treble, smooth attack, great dynamic, and never getting muddy specially in the neck position!

Hey Ozeshin: Do not take a SD JB, this pickup does not show the full range of your guitar! The SD 59 ist not bad, if you want to choose a SD!

Buy a Qantas ticket, and come over to my place, here you can check out more than 25 guitars with all the different H?ussel pickups built in - ready for "rock"! (I wish I could drink a VB right now - at the beach cafe in Byron Bay!)

good on ya, "ACY"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice! BaggyPants, david_djd, Schnabelrock

I'm going to take my time to choose because I agree with Andi and Acy, mkIIs are not bad, not the greatest thing you've ever heard but definitely not bad.

I've been collecting samples of the pick ups that I like best and so far this is my ranking;

1 Hans Jurgen's Shaw PAFS (where did you get them?)
2 burstbuckers 1 & 2 -> according to the samples I have
3 p-94's
4 ceramics 496R 500T

Schnabelrock wrote:
No, Burstbuckers are not waxed. Whenever you go heavy, they go crazy. Btw. I think Gibson PUs are overpriced.


I'd like to get this sound;

http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/products/lespauls/58/1958Standard.html

play the sample below that's why I like burstbuckers 1 & 2 .You're right, they are overpriced but they sound great.

Schnabelrock wrote:
Find some smaller producers like H?ussel, Barfuss, Bareknuckles, Fralin, Leosounds


The problem with small producers is that sometimes you can't hear the pick ups and you don't know what are you purchasing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to hear some samples of H?ussel Pickups, have a look at my homepage, and check out the "Soundfiles" Button!
good on ya, "ACY"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Ozeshin: Do not take a SD JB, this pickup does not show the full range of your guitar! The SD 59 ist not bad, if you want to choose a SD!


Hi ACY,

I wouldn't assert that so absolutistically !!

In my Edwards it was a good sounding alternative - perhaps not in my Tokai - but it also depends on several parameters, like wood etc. and obviously if it is built with just a maple cap or with an additional veneer like mine is.
My E. has much more attack than my Tokai and plays totally different - they have been built to be played in different styles.
... and you can't equalize it just by mounting the same pups in it!!
... and you'll make different experience with different guitars!

Roger
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to get this sound;


ganzua

I totally aggree - this sound is great!!



Roger
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ACY
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger!
Yep, on Guitars with too much treble a JB could be a good choice!

But still I do not like that ...................................! (Sorry for that emotional statement!)

See ya on moday?

bye, "ACY"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Les Paul Retrospec came as standard with Haussell pickups.

See this old link

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3604&highlight=retrospec
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ACY
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
That?s interesting! So you got the Vin B A5 in your Tokai!

This is not the Pickup being tested in that "stupid" test in that german magazine! (I know a lot of details behind the walls!)

The Vin B A5 is a pickup that fits really great in a Tokai LP!

How do you like these pickups?

bye, "ACY"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACY,

I think we'll see us on Monday - but at the moment I don't know - "lumbago" - cannot sit and go and stand, just lay down und stop moving!

Gottfried asked, if I could remind you of the "bottles" for the party !!

Have to rest now ...

Roger
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