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GARAGERAT
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: 50'S WIRING MOD: Pics Added Reply with quote

I DID THE 50'S WIRING MOD FROM ERESSERACA'S "THURSDAY BURST" WEBSITE http://www.multi.fi/~nproject/thursday_burst/ TODAY ON MY KOREAN LOVE ROCK. I USED SHORT SHAFT CTS 500K POTS, NOS SPRAGUE .022-600V BLACK BEAUTY CAPS, AND RAN NEW BRAIDED SHIELDED WIRE TO THE THREE-WAY SWITCH. THE HOLES FOR THE VOL AND TONE NEEDED A LITTLE ENLARGING BUT WAS EASY WITH A ROUND WOOD FILE. WHAT A DIFFERENCE IT MADE. I HAVE CLARITY /DEFINITION IN THE SOUND OF THE GUITAR THAT I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. THE VOL AND TONE ARE MUCH MORE SENSITIVE. IT GOT RID OF ALOT OF MUDDINESS NOT ONLY WHEN I TURN DOWN BUT THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE RANGE. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH IT.[/b]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi GARAGERAT,

It?s funny that we are mod our Tokai at the same time, me myself are installing new Grover tuners, new studs for the stoptail, and I will also do the same with the wiring when I bought the things that I need.

How long is the pots (in MM) ? and where have you bought you stuff ?
Do you have any pictures ?

Keep up the good work

Anders
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People on this forum really need to learn what a hand reamer is.

A round wood file to enlarge your pot holes? Ouch!

Glad it worked out, the wiring upgrade is easily the best value for money upgrade you can make and the difference is always a noticeable improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paladin2019 wrote:
People on this forum really need to learn what a hand reamer is.

A round wood file to enlarge your pot holes? Ouch!

Glad it worked out, the wiring upgrade is easily the best value for money upgrade you can make and the difference is always a noticeable improvement.


No Love Rocks were harmed during this procedure, lol. I called it a file but I guess you are right it's a hand reamer. Tapered and fluted with a "T" handle. My brother has a wood shop, he builds furniture. Didn't mean to give you goose bumps with the file remark. I assure you this guitar is very well cared for. I don't even like people to walk near it, lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anders
I got my pots from ebay. This was an auction for the long shaft pots but he has both long and short. He swapped them out for me before he shipped them. No pics yet. Here's a link to the auction I won, or bought rather.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7422889734&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, dont forget the braided wire for the switch. The guy with the pots has that also. Just thought I'd mention it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARAGERAT,



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Also, dont forget the braided wire for the switch. The guy with the pots has that also. Just thought I'd mention it.


... very important hint!!

Andreas Kloppmann (from Kloppmann pickups) also recommends this highly.
Never thought before what difference in tone it would provide!!

Roger
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEFORE I DID THE TOTAL REWIRE, I CHANGED THE CAPS OUT FOR THE BLACK BEAUTIES AND REWIRED THE STOCK TOKAI STUFF TO THE 50'S SPECS TO SEE IF I WOULD LIKE THE SOUND. THE GUITAR SOUNDED GOOD ALREADY AND A CHANGE BACK WOULD BE EASIER THIS WAY IF I DIDN'T. I LIKED WHAT I HEARD WITH THE PARTIAL SO I WENT AHEAD WITH THE WHOLE DEAL. AND THEN: WOW. THE SHIELDING MUST HAVE CANCELED OUT SOME NOISE I COULDN'T REALLY HEAR, BUT WAS MUDDYING UP THINGS, HENCE THE NEW FOUND CLARITY. I BELIEVE THE CTS POTS ARE MORE SENSITIVE / REACTIVE TO SMALL MOVEMENTS. IMHO, I THINK LEAVING IT OUT WOULD BE A MISTAKE, THE WHOLE CONVERSION SHOULD BE DONE. I COULD REALLY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE FROM STOCK TO THE FIRST REWIRE AND THEN WITH THE SECOND REWIRE AS WELL.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference in shaft length between the short and long ? Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but it's something I've often wondered
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't really know i just needed the short type. anyone else know?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BaggyPants wrote:
What's the difference in shaft length between the short and long ? Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but it's something I've often wondered


From what I could see on the stew mac website the threaded portion is 3/8" tall on the short type and 3/4" tall on the long type.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARAGERAT wrote:
BaggyPants wrote:
What's the difference in shaft length between the short and long ? Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but it's something I've often wondered


From what I could see on the stew mac website the threaded portion is 3/8" tall on the short type and 3/4" tall on the long type.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few pics of my wiring job. I tried to make it neater than the factory wiring. I think it turned out well. It was a lot of work really. The sound is awesome.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've did an excellent job, I guess !


My soldering doesn't look that accurate way!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<<<<<<< GUITAR GOD?

I'M OKAY WITH THE TITLE. BUT DO I HAVE TO TRADE IN MY KOREAN FOR A JAPANESE LOVE ROCK NOW? DAMN IT!! JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS GOOD.
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