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Yamaha Lord Player, Studio Lord ... opinions?
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detroitace
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Yamaha Lord Player, Studio Lord ... opinions? Reply with quote

Hello!

I've seen these on ebay for a while. I wondered if anybody
has one and what the general (or specific) opinion is of them.
Harmony-central has some glowing reviews, but they may be
one-sided.

I see that some are from the early 70's, which seems to indicate
the Yamaha was in the replica game pretty early on.

I'm interested in knowing about the woods, neck thickness,
electronics (pickups, pots) and reliability.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Bill
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello? Any Yamaha 'lord' owners out there?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may know what the reviews on Harmony central worth...

everything is allways "amazing for its price, definitely worth a Gibson" etc...


I've tried one a few years ago, I'll give you the opinion of my friend who sell MIJ on ebay: they are good guitar. Very underrated because Yamaha is underrated in general. There is no high end models from what I's saw, so don't expect to get something like an "Orville by Gibson" or a Greco eg-1000. BUt the studio lords- for example- can be compared to an eg-450 or similar. Again, I'm not a Yamaha specialist, but I tend to trust this brand as it usually offer some very honest stuff ( when it's not killer guitars like in the accoustic range) and it's really underrated.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen 700 models which I think may be as high end as they went...or not. I own several good yamahas and they make great guitars, one of the best kept secrets out there.
I have a USA II
A Pac 10th anniversary strat
A mike Stern 1511
An SAS-1500
An SA-2200
A 1973 SG-35
and an LL33J acoustic.
Love my Yamahas.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got an LP 500 off Ebay for a fair price and I love it.
It's made from several pieces of wood, 9 in total. Two pancakes and a maple cap all made from 3 pieces of wood. I guess this is how they were
making them back then. Anyway, it doesn't seem to effect the sustain much, but it does make it my heaviest les paul. My edwards LE is around 8.2, my two Diodatis (really Tokai LS70s) are 8.8 or so (bathroom scale

I've done several things to it since I got including:
- changed the original yamaha humbuckers for SD (SH4-, SH-2N in the bridge and neck, respectively)
- put original style keystone tuners on it (had been replaced with grover style, which worked well, but left holes in the back of the headstock)
- put on a gotoh bridge because the old was kind of corroded, but still worked.
- and recrowned the frets.

Now, it's awesome.

I do think this guitar is very solid and should last a long time.
I'll post pictures soon. (Anyone want to help here? I've got some space to put them up, but everytime I do, all I get are links in the message)

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 500 series means it sold for 50,000 yen... not a high end model. The higher up you go the better the pqrts and wood...which is not to say a 5oo series can`t be a good guitar , each should be judged on it`s own merits. But thats why it`s made of so many pieces of wood.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Studio Lord SL1000 Reply with quote

Strangely... I have acquired a Yamaha SL1000 - which is a Studio Lord LP custom copy of such exquisite beauty and tone that no record of it dare exist anywhere - Google? Nada! Only the original ebay ad I got it from.

I can vouch for it being a genuine Yamy because I own an SG800 of similar vintage that has a very similar feel, approach, hardware, truss rod cover etc but this SL1000 is just a beauty.

I wonder if anyone else has ever seen one - can shed any light? I would love to know...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your the one that won that. I had never seen any above a 700.
I have the Lord Player LP-400 with the Gisbon shaped headstock and it's really a great playing/sounding/feeling guitar.

P.S. detroitace- want to sell those awful sounding Yamaha humbuckers?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah since posting in march I`ve seen 800s and 1000s on the Japanese web.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the 800's and 1000's from the 70's/80's or are they a more recent production?

Anyone know why some are Studio Lord and some are Lord Player?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is the Lord Player's had the open-book headstock and were intended for the Japanese market, while the Studio Lords have an inverted open-book headstock and were for export.

I think they were made the same, otherwise, though.

I've also heard that in the 70's and early 80's the Yamaha's were the Japanese replicas that were thought to be closest to the originals in feel and playability.

-- Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My SL1000 is definitely 70s/80s as the lacquer has that slightly milky look in places that old Yamahas from that era get.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have received the following information from Yamaha in Japan on my SL1000

Body / Maple + Mahogany
Neck / Mahogany
F.Board / Ebony

Neck Construction /Set in

Production / Sep. 1977
Made in Japan

er...

That's it.

It's a monster guitar and you'se all should be kicking yourselves for not getting to it first...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone has an opinion about the Studio Lord SL800?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No specific opinion other that I've never been anything less than astonished at the quality of Yamahas high end guitars (and the SL800 will be a high end guitar).

I get the feeling that Yamaha went in for producing really professional quality instruments that happened to look like Les Pauls rather that the other way round (If you get my drift)

I have a Yamaha SG800 which is the first guitar that ever really astonished me with its quality - I've a feeling the SL800 will be equally astonishing
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