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u2fan
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

need some help.

how do you tell if it's a Greco Super Real or not? Did they make Super Real in 1982?

What is the difference between a Super Real and Mint collection?
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Duckmeister
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Real was in 1980 to 1981 only.

Mint Collection was from 1982 to 1989 (maybe until 1990). Best years to get are 82 to 85 they say for quality.

The differences are the details of the Instruments, Names given to them (EGF1000 vs EG58-120), some construction i believe in the Les Pauls are slightly different.

What is the same is the serial numbers. 1980 goes 0 XXXX all the way up to 1989 which is 9 XXXX. Again it might repeat itself in 1990 with the 0 XXXX but i dont know for sure.

If you want ot know the models to get look at this page for info:

http://www.japanguitars.co.uk/japanguitars/page1.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, thanks for the reply. how do i then identify and verify the authenticity of a Mint Collection?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to Harmony Central's GRECO section of user submitted reviews. See if the descriptions by these owners give you any hints as to what they percieve their guitars are like

http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Greco/


Also if you own this guitar remove the strings and carefully take out both pickups - this way you can determine if the guitar has a hollowed out body (some Greco LPs do) and also get a looksee at the neck tendon AND to see if the top is a laminate or solid maple top. Most of us hardcore collectors want a solid maple top - understanding that some guys have smaller budgets though, the laminated top guitars are still very nice



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hum, Harmony central reviews are difficult to rely on. No matter what brand, it allways end up with "definitely a bang for the buck, the quality of a Gibson for cheaper. etc..."
Wonder if people are deaf or if they try to fool themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harmony Central reviews must be viewed with some caution. If the reviewer says "I just got it" then he's still in the bliss filled "honeymoon stage" of ownership. I look for guys that have been playing a long time, maybe in a regularly working band, where the instrument is getting a real workout. Most people won't come right out and say "Man I screwed up buying this POS", well except when it comes to Ed Roman gutiars. LOL.

But they are good to distinguish what people paid (and when), features and hopefully the subtle cosmetic differences. I've also seen my share of situations where the reviewer posted his review under the wrong model number - but that's pretty easy to spot if there are say 8 or 9 reviews of the same model.


I'd rather rely on these owner written reviews and evaluations than on rags like Guitar Player or Guitar World that write up and instrument and oh my, look at that, an ad for the very instrument on the opposite page...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigmike wrote:
Most people won't come right out and say "Man I screwed up buying this POS", well except when it comes to Ed Roman gutiars. LOL.


That good ol' Ed!!!
I did said that a couple of time, but not on harmony central (never posted there anyway.)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok truss rods on mint coll are plain ...older (pre 80 greco's have standard on them ...also mint coll is not fret edge binding and ser no like gibson hist ....the only way to tell the model no of a mint coll is by the flaming and the pickups..top level eg58-120 and 59-100 have DRY PU ...eg59-70 and 85 have screamin or double trick ....

hope this helps..

www.japanguitars.co.uk


see the ones on my site for examples..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the far right you'll see my Greco Goldtop with Mini Humbuckers..

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey guys, ive been looking at this Greco for a long time, its quite interesting, i've not seen a similar one on the internet. have u seen it before?

its fretmarkers are like Les Paul Custom ones, and on the back of the body is a carved topside. There are also these funky star tuners. and also i cant seem to see the trussrod cover (i.e. there's no white outline to the TRC)


http://www.tymguitars.com.au/forsale_guitars_Greco_LP.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a common greco from the start of the 70's. Nothing special about it. Might have a chambered body. It can be a good guitar but don't expect a perfect copycat like the mint collection or the super real as it has the big head like all early Greco have. They are also a bit heavy on the finish. But it's good guitars made with good materials. The PU are really nice.

Truss rod cover is obviously gone.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INFO WANTED!!
Please, could someone tell me a little info from these beautyes;

http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/beano74/Greco_SuperReal_SE800_Stratocaster/

Greco Super Real SE800 Stratocaster
c.1980

AND

http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/beano74/Greco_PB-700_Basso/

Greco PB-700 bass
c.1982

~~~~~
Thanks
-Sami-


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a late 70s SE-800 and love it. Great guitar in every way. Also have 2 SE-600s, one that was butchered by somebody to be a Jeff Beck model...but it too sounds great so I kept it. I really like those older Greco strats and am looking for a Fernendes from that era.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe didsomeonesaylespaul..nice pic ..i was going to do that with mine ...but the sofa is too small ...hehehehe
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: GRECO SE 500 STRAT-HOW'D I DO? Reply with quote

HEY EVERYONE, FIRST POST NEWBIE HERE! I WON THIS AUCTION THE OTHER DAY, HOW'D I DO:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7414520502&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

ACTUALLY THE SELLER LET ME HAVE IT FOR THE OPENING BID PRICE+SHIPPING WHICH CAME TO $460.00 usd. IT HAS A FLAW IN THE FINISH BUT WHEN I'M PLUGGED IN WHO CARES. WHEN I PLAY IT THE FIRST TIME AM I GONNA SAY TO MYSELF, "I COULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT A FENDER THIS NICE FOR $460"? FROM WHAT I'VE READ I FIGURED THIS WOULD BE THE CLOSEST THING TO PLAYING A VINTAGE FENDER I'LL EVER GET. THE AMERICAN GUITARS IN MY SMALL COLLECTION SEEM TO BE SLOWLY GETTING PUSHED OUT BY THESE GUITARS. I RECENTLY SOLD 2 GUITARS AND BOUGHT A LOVE ROCK. IT'S A SHAME BUT YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE QUALITY AND PRICE. THANKS FOR ANY INPUT.
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