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What model is my 1983 love rock?
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Hazrus
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: What model is my 1983 love rock? Reply with quote

Hi guys, first post!

I've got a 1983 love rock. The problem is, I don't know what model the guitar is. It's got the following specs:

S/N: 3016033
Finish: flame top, cherry sun burst
Pickups: Nickel (?) covered, look like PAF's

any ideas? I checked the Tokai registry but couldn't work it out. Maybe you could help!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazrus,

I checked through the catalogs, unfortunately we don't have a copy of the '83 catalog. But based on the '82 catalog the only Cherry burst flame top with covered pups is a LS150.

Since these are very high end models it may be worth removing your pups to check the cavity for markings that may indicate the model.

If it really is a LS150 than you my friend have scored.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope I've scored too.. This guitar really plays like a dream.

When removing the pickups, what do I look for in the cavity?


EDIT: BTW there is no markings on any of the frets.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be something written in market inside the pickup cavities. Pull the pups and report back what you find.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: 1983 Love Rock F.Y.I. Reply with quote

Hi guys, first post from Japan

I've also got a 1983 love rock recently.

S/N: 3015422
Finish: flame top, cherry sun burst
Pickups: Gotoh PAF '57 (sealed on the back of PUs, Nickel covered)

It has a round label "60" just under the S/N, so it is LS-60.
The flame top is unfortunately created from a thin film.

Pls see the below pic for your reference.

http://rsdaizo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/Tokai%20LS-60%2019831.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-

Yours is a LS60. The round sticker on the back is the model number. May be that Tokai made flame top cherry bursts with covered pups in '83. Maybe a few more examples will show up.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello, i've also got tokai with 3016025 code, and i dont know what the model it is.. i can't removed the pup to see if there any code in there.. the screws are broken..

i wanna know the value of that guitar, the specs, etc, coz i know nothing about a guitar.. n i think im gonna sell it.. any ideas?

here are the pictures..
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=427
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=428
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=429

thanks a lot..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello, i've also got tokai with 3016025 code, and i dont know what the model it is.. i can't removed the pup to see if there any code in there.. the screws are broken..

i wanna know the value of that guitar, the specs, etc, coz i know nothing about a guitar.. n i think im gonna sell it.. any ideas?

here are the pictures..
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=427
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=428
http://forum.techscape.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=429

thanks a lot..
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

When trying to decipher 1983 models, use the 1984 catalog with the green cover. I did have a 1983 catalog (with a cartoon drawing of Chester & Lester on the cover) and the layout style and models were very similar to the 1984 catalog rather than the 1982.
I would guess that all the Love Rocks are probably LS-60 or LS-80 models, both these had pickup covers.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the new models rival the gibsons or just the old ones like the ls150. I assume you would buy a new love rock over an Epi? What model is good?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you looking for in a a guitar?
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
Hi guys,

When trying to decipher 1983 models, use the 1984 catalog with the green cover. I did have a 1983 catalog (with a cartoon drawing of Chester & Lester on the cover) and the layout style and models were very similar to the 1984 catalog rather than the 1982.
I would guess that all the Love Rocks are probably LS-60 or LS-80 models, both these had pickup covers.

regards
Peter Mac

Well according to the 1985 catalog I have a LS80....would that be right?
It had pickup covers but I removed them...the zebra styled PAF's are original.
Forgive me for the size of this pic:
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not original turners to me.....
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luis wrote:
Not original turners to me.....

No...they're new Grovers...the Kluson-look-alikes were slipping and as this is my main axe...I need it to stay reliably in tune.
The serial number:5034157 tells me that it's a 1985 Love Rock...but is it a LS80 or a LS 100??
Besides pulling the pickups out is there anyother way to tell?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update!

I finally got around to pulling out the pickups to check to see if it has a maple cap or not

What I found is what looks like two pieces of wood joined together - the top piece being lighter and the same colour as the top finish (ie. CSB). This looks to be about 1/2 inch thick. I could not see a join for a laminate/veneer.

So I am assuming that the top 1/2 inch thick layer is the maple cap, or is it common for tokai's of this vintage to have 2 types of wood in the body? I thought that if the guitar had a veneer top it would be solid mahogany with a very thin layer of maple on top.

There were no markings on the inside of either pickup cavity

So what I've got is:
1983 Love rock
Cherry sunburst
Tokai '57 PAF pickups (nickel covered)
solid maple top???

what model am I looking at?
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