Is this a LS320?

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Post by guitar hiro » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:34 pm

good to see the seller FINALLY got it right; that took forever, almost. :lol:

The guitar is now worthy of a new home, since the truth of it is published within the listing. :)

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Post by aroomstudios » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:24 pm

It is close but not right. On Ebay it is listed:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Tokai-Lov ... :rk:1:pf:0

it Still has.


"With a breathtaking AAAA solid Maple top with a flame that is second to none."


In it. According to

http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/cat ... i20010.jpg

320 is AAAA and 200 is "flamed maple top"


If I could get that 200 for deal I would probably buy it. But for that price I might as well just buy a 320.

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Post by guitar hiro » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:54 pm

aroomstudios wrote:It is close but not right. On Ebay it is listed:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Tokai-Lov ... :rk:1:pf:0

it Still has.


"With a breathtaking AAAA solid Maple top with a flame that is second to none."


In it. According to

http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/cat ... i20010.jpg

320 is AAAA and 200 is "flamed maple top"


If I could get that 200 for deal I would probably buy it. But for that price I might as well just buy a 320.

I didn't bother looking @ the eBay listing; can't stand that Hell hole of a cluster fvck.
I did check the Reverb listing, which was much improved & seemingly correct.
The LS-200 the seller is offering looks very clean & looks to be a prime example, overall but the top is very boring for my taste.
Also, I'm not too keen on an Ebony 'board on a Lester in general, and particularly one with that weight (9 lb. - 2 oz.) range.

IMO there is no comparison between a LS-200 of that vintage & a LS-320 from five years earlier.
The lumber spec for the LS-320 in general is much more of an upgrade, period.

One day I will sell my LS-320 VF but that won't be any time soon, at all.
Mine has one of the best three tops IMO that I have seen on any LS-320, and the Brazilian fingerboard is just sick. :D
Only thing I'm not crazy about on my LS-320 is the neck is thinner than I prefer but it's a LS-320. :lol:

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Post by aroomstudios » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:04 pm

Yeah, one of these days I will get a ls320 from that time 2000 or so.

On a side note what is the difference from a ls 320 for 2000 or so and the new ones. Ls 480 or 520 or something like that. Basically the current 2018 or 2019 top of the line Ls model. I have heard they still do them but they are not in the catalog.

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Post by dennisqle91 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:07 pm

If you want an LS-320, look here: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r293383992

Looks to be in good shape and the electronics have been upgraded. Unfortunate year, though.

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Post by guitar hiro » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:07 pm

aroomstudios wrote:Yeah, one of these days I will get a ls320 from that time 2000 or so.

On a side note what is the difference from a ls 320 for 2000 or so and the new ones. Ls 480 or 520 or something like that. Basically the current 2018 or 2019 top of the line Ls model. I have heard they still do them but they are not in the catalog.

AFAIK =

LS-300 = 1995 (pre LS-320 prototype made by Kunishi Furuhashi)

LS-320 = 1996/1997 to 2003 (the longest running/highest spec LS in Tokai history, EVER)

LS-360 = ?

LS-380 = 2006

LS-420 = ?

LS-470 = 2008

LS-540 = 2010

DYODD :)

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Post by aroomstudios » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:51 pm

Thanks, guitar hiro. Is there one year that was better for some reason or are they all about the same. I know you said a few years earlier than 2002 for the ls200 (though you were talking about a good 320). Was that the golden years or something? Reason is I will see Shohei Adachi next month at the 2019 NAMM Anaheim show. I have order a few new old stock item from Tokai before. A 2012 P/musicman Tokai bass that I ordered in 2018. Then a guitar I am in the works of ordering from him. This guitar was discontinued 5 or 10 years ago but they have the older bodys still at the factory. So, they can custom make it to my specs for me. I am just wondering if this could be something that could work. Though it might be easier and cheaper to just find a good 1997 or so used LS 320 around.

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Post by dennisqle91 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:03 am

So is the LS-320 superior to the later equivalents, e.g., LS-420, 470, etc... ? Do you have any impressions of the high end HLS models like HLS-420, HLS-MAX?
guitar hiro wrote:
aroomstudios wrote:Yeah, one of these days I will get a ls320 from that time 2000 or so.

On a side note what is the difference from a ls 320 for 2000 or so and the new ones. Ls 480 or 520 or something like that. Basically the current 2018 or 2019 top of the line Ls model. I have heard they still do them but they are not in the catalog.

AFAIK =

LS-300 = 1995 (pre LS-320 prototype made by Kunishi Furuhashi)

LS-320 = 1996/1997 to 2003 (the longest running/highest spec LS in Tokai history, EVER)

LS-360 = ?

LS-380 = 2006

LS-420 = ?

LS-470 = 2008

LS-540 = 2010

DYODD :)

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Post by villager » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:49 am

thats a lovely 320 just a shame they dropped the fret binding in the later 2005 models.. otherwise i would go for that.. for me 320 has to be 97-2004 with fret binding, I am also not a fan of the wierd inlays they used on some of them..here is a 2003 I currently have for sale..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146163744 ... 9319256300

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Post by aroomstudios » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:05 am

It is just me or was this just added to the reverb listing:

"With a breathtaking AAAA solid Maple top with a flame that is second to none."

I thought this was removed from the reverb listing the other day and it just said flame maple top.

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Post by villager » Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:06 am

second to none my arse... I have better flame maple on at least 20 guitars on my studio wall!!!

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Post by guitar hiro » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:26 am

aroomstudios wrote:Thanks, guitar hiro. Is there one year that was better for some reason or are they all about the same. I know you said a few years earlier than 2002 for the ls200 (though you were talking about a good 320). Was that the golden years or something? Reason is I will see Shohei Adachi next month at the 2019 NAMM Anaheim show. I have order a few new old stock item from Tokai before. A 2012 P/musicman Tokai bass that I ordered in 2018. Then a guitar I am in the works of ordering from him. This guitar was discontinued 5 or 10 years ago but they have the older bodys still at the factory. So, they can custom make it to my specs for me. I am just wondering if this could be something that could work. Though it might be easier and cheaper to just find a good 1997 or so used LS 320 around.

If I were in the market to acquire a LS-320 I would be looking for one from the original time frame of manufacture (1996/1997) up through the 2003/2004 examples; why?
You might as well have FEB if you are going for a 320; right?
Does FEB make a 320 'better?' Maybe not but why have a 320 without FEB? :lol:

Since you have ordered from Tokai before then you should be able to request just about anything you desire from Tokai; all it takes is money.
That's my opinion & that may be your best option.

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Post by guitar hiro » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:34 am

dennisqle91 wrote:So is the LS-320 superior to the later equivalents, e.g., LS-420, 470, etc... ? Do you have any impressions of the high end HLS models like HLS-420, HLS-MAX?

For me personally my 2000 LS-320 is all the Tokai 'Les Paul' I will ever need.
I have never changed a thing on this guitar, never been drilled for a pick guard, and I rarely play it.
When I do play it, it reminds me of how much of a special guitar it really is.
I would choose it over any 'vintage' Tokai I have ever had in my hands.
That is just personal preference; nothing else.
I am not that familiar with the higher grade/post LS-320 offerings from Tokai.

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Post by guitar hiro » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:46 am

villager wrote:thats a lovely 320 just a shame they dropped the fret binding in the later 2005 models.. otherwise i would go for that.. for me 320 has to be 97-2004 with fret binding, I am also not a fan of the wierd inlays they used on some of them..here is a 2003 I currently have for sale..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146163744 ... 9319256300

I purchased my 320 over a decade ago & I used to hate the 'amber cell' inlays.
I eventually grew to like them, as they offer the guitar an attribute that adds to the over all unique character of the guitar.
My 320 is a one of a kind within the context of my small collection of 'Les Paul' types. 8)

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Post by villager » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:14 am

here my not for sale 320...

ImageDSCF1520 by generalunrest generalunrest, on Flickr

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