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ID on 2008 Love Rock - Possible Fake?

 
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rhilali
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: ID on 2008 Love Rock - Possible Fake? Reply with quote

Hi all

I'm looking to buy a Love Rock, found this one listed but wanted to check on its authenticity.

I've done some research, and from what it looks like if it is genuine I would assume that is is made in Japan. It's listed as a 2008 model

I'm basing this on the fact that it has two screws in the truss rod cover.

However there are a couple of things I would like a second opinion on.

Firstly the truss rod cover has the word 'Standard' on it, I haven't seen any examples of a stock Love Rock with this, although I guess this is something that could easily be replaced.

It also has a 6 digit serial number, from what I've seen would I be correct that a MIJ Love Rock should be 7 digit?

This is in the UK if that helps with iding.


Pics below - apparently a previous owner sanded it down giving it a matte finish.


https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/glwAAOSwajJboUwo/$_86.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/hP0AAOSwfLpboUwx/$_86.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/GxAAAOSwX6dboUwr/$_86.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/kM0AAOSw2sNboUwu/$_86.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/MLUAAOSwqEZboUw2/$_86.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/U9cAAOSwwBhboUwz/$_86.JPG


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rhilali
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why those picture didn't render. Pointers appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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brokentoes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 100% not a MIJ Tokai. From what i can see it's a Made in China model Tokai or at the worse a fake Korean model. If it has a neck scarf it's a fake. I'd stay away.

If you go back and edit your original post and remove the "[img]" from the beginning and end of your pics they will show up.

Cheers
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely not MIJ.

The person has gone to some effort to make it look MIJ. Not a crime in itself, but trying to pass it off as a MIJ when you want to sell up is not on!

The truss rod cover is from a Gibson. If you look closely at the picture you can see a gap at the bottom - again, he's tried to hide this. Some MIK/MIC models do have a 2 screw TRC though.

The other point of confusion is that he's put some black control plate covers on - MIK/MIC are usually cream.

Nothing can disguise the serial # or the bridge layout however. This is not a MIJ model.

Pickups look new, the knobs have been changed, pickguard and R/T ring are missing, and there's that sanding job... a swapped out TRC and some new covers wouldn't be a big deal on top of that but such extensive mods will devalue the guitar on the used market. What's he asking? You didn't include a link to the sale in your original post.
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rhilali
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's listed at 350, so probably would have been too good to be true. Thought I might have found a steal though...

It's not listed as an MIJ to be fair, that was based on my own looking at it. It's listed as got as part exhange so I think he doesn't know the full history of it.

I'll probably give it a miss... do you think it's worth having a look anyway with a healthy dose of scepticism? If it plays well it plays well regardless of where its made.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe check it out if it's local but with such extensive mods and a poorly understood history I personally wouldn't touch it for more that 150 if it played well.
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rhilali
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye fair, will probably give it a miss then.

Cheers for the help
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