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Probably a true LC-110 of around 1980. Your opinion ?

 
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Harima_San
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Probably a true LC-110 of around 1980. Your opinion ? Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm actually in contact with a seller that sells an old Tokai LC-110. He says the guitar is from 1980. The instrument has some little specialities that I can't identify completely, not beeing all fond with the older tokai's. Could you help me to make sure this is a legit guitar.

Serial number should be : 1016087

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.php?lang=fr&identifier=image&size=normal&module=user&userPhoto_id=310862

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.php?lang=fr&identifier=image&size=normal&module=user&userPhoto_id=310864

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.php?lang=fr&identifier=image&size=normal&module=user&userPhoto_id=310863

...I will upgrade the images in a few time. I seem to have difficulties to upload in the moment.
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aroomstudios
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the SN is 1016087 that means the guitar is 1981 or 2010 but it looks like a 81. Here is a 2010 for reference:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokai-LC145S-2010s-E-Guitar-Free-Shipping-Black-Les-Paul-Type/263433964742?epid=13013020114&hash=item3d55e34cc6:g:8LMAAOSws5BaWYII



http://www.tokairegistry.com/tokai-info/tokai-gibson.html

Why is the guy saying it is 1980?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to headstock motif it has to be mid/late 1981. I have a 1981 ES that has no motif but I have seen several with it..... If 1980 it should have an 110 engraved on last fret and an oval sticke i f 1981
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

81 tokai lc 110. I would have expected different tuners, but there arent many 110ís out there so not sure. The lc100ís had wafflebacks..(but also diamond inlay so who knows..)
Tailpiece also looks exchanged for a newer one..
I would buy that! Let me know if you donít
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrigato Goizaimasu (or Thank you) for all of your kind replies.

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Why is the guy saying it is 1980?

Probably because he doesn't know. The seller is very sweet, he's admitting that he is not the first buyer and this guitar had a life with different pro artists before. As he said, "he bought it in the belief it was a 1980 model, but he's not toally sure, whatever, he strongly believe her to be of around those times".

Today I uploaded two more pictures :
https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.php?lang=fr&identifier=image&size=normal&module=user&userPhoto_id=310877

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.php?lang=fr&identifier=image&size=normal&module=user&userPhoto_id=310876
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guitar has been posted before on this site..
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9750&sid=1246da3359fd1ae92f4c52cdcd1b3fac

Fretboard doesnt look like ebony.. the grain on mine is smaller..
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello duff. Thank you for your link.

Ebony exists in different variations. This is obviously a piece of Macassar Ebony. Very appreciated in furniture today, and very vivid in it's brown/dark contrasts. But I agree it's very different looking than Gaboon Ebony (for example).
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i know, but itís weird the ebony on this one is completely different from the one on my lc-100 and on the es-150ís.. i always thought ebony was denser.. the grain on this one looks more like regular rosewood..
Iím no expert.. just saying itís different on mine and that itís weird they used different kinds on basically the same guitar.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like striped ebony. I'm not big on the 3 pickup Les Paul however. That one looks very nice. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem Duff San, you are welcome and you taking part in this discussion was appreciated from myself.


Little update on the thread. The deal is done, this guitar will shift owner in june. I must reserve a plane ticket to go and snatch her. I let you be informed.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

This LC-110 is from MY1982. The headstock inlay was only used in the 1982 Model Year ( Oct-81 to Oct-82)
I can't make out the first number, the 2nd is '0' 3rd is unclear and the last 4 are legible. It's almost like an owner was trying to replicate the 1960 Gibson serial number pattern.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Peter,

Thank you for your input. I only come checking into this forum occasionnaly because he's quite quiet.

We will probably have an incoming update because I bought this guitar. Maybe a little lot of work to do on it to become her clean, but I don't care. It will be a good project for the upcoming winter time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wood-database.com/macassar-ebony/ Stunning guitar Harima San .Maccassar ebony is a beautiful and very expensive tonewood.Sharing as it does some of the tonal qualities of Brazilian rosewood It makes a very attractive and toneful wood for high end acoustics too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sheppardguitars.com/ebony1.htm Like this beauty from Gerald Sheppard
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sheppard looks gorgeous. Even if I'm well married to my Guild accoustic, this one looks interesting too.
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