Crews Maniac Sound KTR NEXT 5D

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Post by wulfman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:03 am

They both look great. How does it sound, and does it have the K&T pickups? I'd be keeping it if it does.

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Post by guitar hiro » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:49 am

wulfman wrote:They both look great. How does it sound, and does it have the K&T pickups? I'd be keeping it if it does.

Per my fourth post in the thread, the guitar was being sold with the NFS pickups removed & a lower grade Crews pickup in place.
The pickups it came with don't impress my ears that much but no biggie there.
The price I paid was 2 1/2 times less than MSRP so, I was glad to make the deal sans the original pickups.
The guitar arrived just as advertised but not as pictured. The guitar looks like it just came off the factory floor = brand new, not a scratch.
I have plenty of old Greco matched pickup sets from 1980 to very early 1982 that could be installed; Double Trick, PU-2, Dry Z.
The build quality of the guitar is pretty much impeccable. Whatever factory this came from they nailed it BIG time.
If Gibson ever had this guitar in their hands they would crap their pants :lol:

The only thing that could make this better is if I could some how get the guitar that was actually pictured in the MLK Digimart listing.
It has the top that I wanted/thought I was buying. It is my favorite top of all the examples I have seen in the NEXT 5D series.
I have yet to hear if the one pictured in the MLK Digimart listing is still available.
Needless to say, after this transaction, I won't likely purchase from Music Land Key ever again.

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Post by guitar hiro » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:06 pm

just found out the seller does NOT have the pictured item from their listing available :evil:
This is some pretty fvcked up sh!t IMO.
Never in my 45 years of purchasing have I come across such an unprofessional organization as Music Land Key.
If anyone is considering purchasing from MLK I would highly recommend you purchase from the local 7-11, or the local water treatment plant instead 8)

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Post by brokentoes » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:23 pm

The ole bait and switch !!!!

Dirty pool i'd say.

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Post by guitar hiro » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:59 am

I will keep this example, learn from the experience, move forward, and rock on :)

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Post by BrianGT » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:24 am

Sorry to read this. At least the guitar you have is a good one and you want to keep it.

I don't know why companies would do that. They only get away with it once and they have lost a potential future customer in yourself and not only that, in the age of the Internet they have accrued a bad reputation.
That's a crazy way to expect to stay in business!

Enjoy the guitar and just put it behind you.

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Post by guitar hiro » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:47 am

The guitar I received is pretty nice & I have been playing it every day; not gonna kick her to the curb :lol:

I copied & pasted the Kanji text from the KTR NEXT 5D web page & put it through a translator.
Below the link is what it came up with, slightly corrected; some of that is just goofy ... LOL
http://www.musicland.co.jp/content/ktr/next-5d/


The 50th anniversary model of the music land KEY founded in 20 fully limited edition, incorporating Crews' original arrangement based on original burst made in 1958.

In keeping with domestic production "Made in Japan", we realized "It is impossible to give up anything in the price range" real "real instruments without giving up", we propose "good instrument" we think KTR (Key to the Rock) series. KEY 50th anniversary model by collaboration of Mr. Crews Yoshioka of making instruments and Mr. K & T Takano heavyweight of vintage guitar world.

In making this model, Crews Kikuo Yoshioka's original burst made in 1958 is reexamined in detail, and Crews original arrangement is incorporated. The neck has mahogany warm air dried for more than 30 years, high quality 1 piece mahogany wood for body and back, and hard maple where the flame is swayed by the flame on the body top. All of these woods are hand select at the site for this project.

In addition to the memorial model, "KEY'STONE" (the "AUTHENTIC" project launched to explore the real tone breathing in the history of electric guitar/bass and to return it to today's players Parts of Vintage replica type (inch standards) are mounted and brushed up the sound, mainly by our company's original components/parts created by the company. You will be able to experience the obvious difference of the sound each part brings.

"The big difference" with the handmade guitar of the same price range comes from the time and cheap time spent by skilled craftsmen with skilled skills, and know-how cultivated from years of experience. Japanese saw makers who are proud of the world and are proud of the world's materials that were chosen without compromise in everything were sawn and assembled. Of course, as well as pickup, K & T pickup of fully hand-rolled made by the same manufacturing method and construction method at that time.

Limited production of only 20 pieces. It is the completion of a special model celebrating "Ever" and "Future" of Musicland KEY.

Neck : Selected African Mahogany (30 years air drying)
Fingerboard : Selected Rosewood
Body Top : Selected Flame Hard Maple
Body Back : 1P Selected Mahogany
Pickups : K&T NFS WEEP (Front:ZB / Rear:WW)
Nut : Non Remove Fat, Non Bleached Bone Nut
Scale : 625mm, 22F
Machine Head : KEY'STONE GSS-STD/NICKEL 3/3
Tuner Bushings : KEY'STONE '50s Vintage Replica Tuner Bushings/Nickel 6
Bridge : ABR-1 style Bridge non-wired
Tailpiece : Vintage Clone Aluminum Tailpiece
Controls : 2 Volume, 2 Tone, 3 pos. Switch
Finish : Special Lacquer
Case : Crews Original Hard case

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Post by guitar hiro » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:26 am

the Crews KEY KTR NEXT 5D has turned out to be one of my favorite LPs :) even with the extra 'fat girl' weight :o

I like it so much I ended up buying a Crews KEY KTR gold top :lol: which is supposed to also have a '58 type neck so, we shall see

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Post by guitar hiro » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:49 pm

Crews KEY KTR gold top cleared US Customs in 2:32 today, on a Saturday :o

not even three hours in Customs & they slide that puppy on through, and on a weekend :D

:P

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Post by guitar hiro » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:10 pm

my Crews Musicland Key KTR LS-02 gold top arrived today & no Customs duty :D

I have read on the web that earlier Crews Les Paul examples with a lower MSRP were made by Deviser, which may have been the case then (I don't know).

This LS-02 is a 5D/2016 example. It has the same mill work in the control route & the same serial # font as my NEXT 5D.
That would seem to indicate both were made by the same factory; the NEXT 5D being higher end/higher MSRP & the LS-02 being the Performance Series/lower MSRP.
I believe these are both Terada factory made guitars. Just thought I would throw that out there.

IMO the workmanship, fit & finish, and attention to detail on the LS-02 is just as good as the NEXT 5D, which is saying a LOT 8)

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Post by Marco78 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:45 am

Some news from Crews maniac sound...

All KTR Les Paul are hollow body or pointed body and a lot of specs on Musicland site are wrong. For example standard series use standard wood and not special wood like "south american 30 years air driyng".

Only Led series (not sell through Musicland) are solid body (with brasilian/honduras) and cost near 500k, so the same price of new Gibson custom shop. :wink:

Probably the great success of this guitar depends from his pickups.

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Post by guitar hiro » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:00 pm

Marco78 wrote:Some news from Crews maniac sound...

All KTR Les Paul are hollow body or pointed body and a lot of specs on Musicland site are wrong. For example standard series use standard wood and not special wood like "south american 30 years air driyng".

Only Led series (not sell through Musicland) are solid body (with brasilian/honduras) and cost near 500k, so the same price of new Gibson custom shop. :wink:

Probably the great success of this guitar depends from his pickups.

sorry but what is 'pointed body'? never heard that one but then I'm like 19 years old

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Post by Marco78 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:35 am

guitar hiro wrote:
Marco78 wrote:Some news from Crews maniac sound...

All KTR Les Paul are hollow body or pointed body and a lot of specs on Musicland site are wrong. For example standard series use standard wood and not special wood like "south american 30 years air driyng".

Only Led series (not sell through Musicland) are solid body (with brasilian/honduras) and cost near 500k, so the same price of new Gibson custom shop. :wink:

Probably the great success of this guitar depends from his pickups.

sorry but what is 'pointed body'? never heard that one but then I'm like 19 years old
In the Gibson Les Paul there are two type of hollow body (weight relieved and chambered) and KTR too is the same. Pointed body I think that is the 7-8 little hole in the wood (weight relieved) while hollow body are chambered.

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Post by guitar hiro » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:41 pm

well, if these are weight relieved then that may be a good thing

the NEXT 5D weighs 9 lb. - 8 oz.

the LS-02 weighs 8 lb. - 14 oz.

if they weren't weight relieved they would weigh more than a Barnum & Bailey Circus elephant :lol:

they are both IMO very impressive guitars 8) the gold top is completely SICK :P

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Post by guitar hiro » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:05 pm

Marco78 wrote:Some news from Crews maniac sound...

All KTR Les Paul are hollow body or pointed body and a lot of specs on Musicland site are wrong. For example standard series use standard wood and not special wood like "south american 30 years air driyng".

Only Led series (not sell through Musicland) are solid body (with brasilian/honduras) and cost near 500k, so the same price of new Gibson custom shop. :wink:

Probably the great success of this guitar depends from his pickups.

I was doing some digging on the web & I found this

http://www.musicland.co.jp/content/ktr/

If you look at the third example from top/left you will see the NEXT 5D. I clicked on that link and it pulls up some specs for the NEXT 5D and also some verbiage, in kanji of course.

I copied & pasted the verbiage into a Google translater & below is what it came up with.

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From the KTR series commemorating the 50th anniversary of the music land which has been raising one after another, a fully limited 20 LP models appeared.

The solid mahogany body of non-weight control is an outstanding mother to the mahogany neck which was dried naturally for 30 years. There, we brush up the sound by installing the parts of the highly accurate Vintage replica type (inch standard) with our original parts "KEY'STONE" as the top. This machine will be one that gives impression to everyone again.

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That would seem to imply that the limited run of 20 pieces NEXT 5D guitars are actually not "hollow" or "pointed," no?


Curious what your source is for, "Some news from Crews maniac sound...?"

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