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Stratomaister
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Help needed with this Tokai model Reply with quote

I just bought nice Tokai es-335 copy or something similar. I was curious to find some info about it since I didn?t found serial number nor "Made in ..." text. There?s no stamp or whatsoever inside.

Here?s some pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m37pzipxefpw0qe/20141211_142535476_iOS.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zt5vn2hugy4ts4/20141211_142613224_iOS.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/psrx0o3jo3uw0aw/20141211_142648793_iOS.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7kcxf8j1dipfdux/tokai2.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4ijm65rvk65wym/tokai.JPG?dl=0


Help me, please! Thank you!
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Reborn Old
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging just by catalog art only, it could be a 2010-2011 ES-145 S (or ES-148 S in 2012-2013) if it has a flame maple top sides and back, which I don't see in pics. If 335 Japan models have MIJ ink stamps on headstocks, they probably would have started in 2003, but it might be on a serial # label.

They are the only catalog 335 models (and years) featuring that trapezoidal tailpiece.
It could be a lower model special order using that tailpiece, if there is no figuring in the maple.

If it plays and intonates OK, I would be a bit little less concerned about it's history, outside of it not having a serial #.


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Stratomaister
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! All I know that this guitar is more than ten years old, because I bought it from my friend who owned it that time. He also bought it used, so I don?t know how old it actually is.
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Reborn Old
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there flame figuring in the maple top back and sides ? ... or not ?

I re-checked catalogs and there were ES-60 models produced between 2000-2005, which may or may not have been produced in Korea.
If they were, it would explain the lack of a serial number, since Korea didn't use serial #'s.
It would not explain the use of a trap tail piece however, which didn't appear on those catalog models,
but there are many other instances of deviations from catalog specs in Tokai's history.

The headsock logo + inlay look correct, FWIW
2000-2005 Korean LS logo examples I looked at, often have a closed "a" at the top, and the i dot closer to the i, on the Tokai inlay,
when compared to Japan made examples, so if there is a general lack of
figuring in the maple, my best guess would be an early 2000's made in Korea ES-60


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks. No flames. Feels like it?s Korean then.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sloted bridge posts: korean
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