NGD LS-80 "Reborn Old"

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NGD LS-80 "Reborn Old"

Post by duaneflowers » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:37 pm

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Post by Reborn Old » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:26 pm

Very nice example and in great condition, by the looks of it Duane. Congrats !
Was that the LS-80 listed on J-Guitar a week or two ago ?

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Post by duaneflowers » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:01 pm

Reborn Old wrote:Very nice example and in great condition, by the looks of it Duane. Congrats !
Was that the LS-80 listed on J-Guitar a week or two ago ?
I didn't notice the one on J-Guitar... this one was "briefly" on Yahoo Auctions...

It is in great shape, as is the original case... the case that came with my LS-120 was in terrible condition... but luckily the guitar was not. :D

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Post by duaneflowers » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:14 am

Thinking of replacing the tuners on this puppy... anyone know of a drop in replacement?

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Post by Reborn Old » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:44 am

If you want new tuners, I would think any kluson set off eBay, Stewmac or AllParts would work. Yahoo for newer used.

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Post by duaneflowers » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:23 am

Reborn Old wrote:If you want new tuners, I would think any kluson set off eBay, Stewmac or AllParts would work. Yahoo for newer used.
Cool! Are they pretty much-one-size-fits-all? The Tokai "Klusons" and Original Klusons are interchangeable? For example, These would work with no problem?[/url]

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Post by Reborn Old » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:07 pm

Yes, they would work .. I'm pretty sure.

I have a set of 1960 Gibson LP tuners that these Klusons would replace,
and both vintage Gibson + Tokai have 23.3mm tuner mount screw spacing, center to center.
AFAIK only gear ratios have changed. British + Metric shaft sizes might vary slightly.

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Post by wulfman » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:01 pm

A pair of these should be fine. I used them on an LS-100 with no mounting issues.
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f141242122

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Post by duaneflowers » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:58 pm

Awesome! Thanks again guys!! :P

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Post by Sigmania » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:10 pm

Why are you replacing them? If they are not factory tuners, then the holes may have been reamed out for modern hole diameter?

I put a set of Tone Pro Kluson style tuners in my guitar that had been slightly reamed to accept Grover Rotomatics. They work great.
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Post by duaneflowers » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:43 pm

Sigmania wrote:Why are you replacing them? If they are not factory tuners, then the holes may have been reamed out for modern hole diameter?

I put a set of Tone Pro Kluson style tuners in my guitar that had been slightly reamed to accept Grover Rotomatics. They work great.
One of the tuning pegs on my LS-120 is a little loose. It works perfectly and keeps tune just fine but it was like that when I got it. I don't know anything about the mechanisms or gears inside but I'd like to preserve them as much as possible. So I want to replace them and keep the original set in case I ever decide to part with it... which I have no plan to do as its a magnificent guitar!

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Post by luis » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:47 am

duane, the posts in old Tokai turnesr is slightly fatter than recent Gotoh Klusons ones.
I have put Goldo by Gotoh ones with Deluxe stampedletters and it fits altough not an exact replacement. I have to replace one in my 1996 LS-320 converted to 59 specs (hardware and plastics) someone forgot to mention it was not OK. A 70 and 80s will fit in OK.

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Post by Sigmania » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:37 pm

If you have calipers its easy to figure out. Just measure your hole.

Most listings will give you the diameter of the bushings or posts.
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Post by duaneflowers » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:44 am

wulfman wrote:A pair of these should be fine. I used them on an LS-100 with no mounting issues.
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f141242122
Got a set of these and hope to get around to installing them this weekend...

Thanks again for the help guys! :)

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Post by wulfman » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:38 am

Good to hear. I had no issued putting them in.

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