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Got A Sour Deal From Koiz Guitar
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marcusnieman
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most of the comments were in your defense and support - you brought it here.
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javamusic
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:
I think most of the comments were in your defense and support - you brought it here.


Thanks guys for speaking out for me, I wasn't complaining, thanks again.
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butrus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No samurai honor in this tread
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jacco
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koiz is not the one that started talking about samurai honor, he just responded to it

jl1 wrote:
Honesty it seems is no longer a japanese virtue - bye bye the code of the samurai!
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jawilluk
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacco wrote:
koiz is not the one that started talking about samurai honor, he just responded to it.

Sat2013 wrote:
Buyer hurt the authority of the samurai is my roots.

Sato responded to this by stating that 'authority of the samurai is my roots'.
I interpret this to mean he has samurai honor (Bushido) himself. In that case comments like butrus made are valid.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if I saw Body: Center 2 P Solid maple with One P solid Mahogany." I would assume it was a three piece back. 2 pieces maple, one of them mahogany.

Fortunately I only buy cheap guitars, treat them badly and don't care if they are one piece or forty piece. As long as they snarl and look cool from the view of the adoring public as I windmill and leap.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobK wrote:
if I saw Body: Center 2 P Solid maple with One P solid Mahogany." I would assume it was a three piece back. 2 pieces maple, one of them mahogany.

Fortunately I only buy cheap guitars, treat them badly and don't care if they are one piece or forty piece. As long as they snarl and look cool from the view of the adoring public as I windmill and leap.


Hero.
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Olds442
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shame it had to come to an internet campaign and racial slurs being cast.

it's only one guitar, Sat moves how many guitars a month?

take it back and refund the guy like a respectable dealer would.
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JVsearch
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The connection between the pre-existing ebay listing and the actual deal that was done is uncertain.

That is the problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly JV.
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jawilluk
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't this the same guitar?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=556369831104235

Listen to his description.
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LPjunior
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly jawilluk, even the facebook video states one piece back , anyway people want to spin this it's hard to get away from the fact it's been advertised as a one piece back on two occasions.

If Koiz later discovered this was 2 pieces and declared that when the actual deal was being done I'm sure it'd have been mentioned by now. So the only conclusion is the deal was done based on the details in the video and ebay listing.
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marcusnieman
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At 0:16 into the video he says "ONE PIECE BACK".... he does not say "Solid back" as he claims that the purchaser and everyone here misunderstood. He also didn't flip it around to show the back.
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jacco
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, indeed.
So he made a mistake and has to correct that with the buyer. No excuses left.
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