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Is this a 1984 Goldstar Sound?
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beedster
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Is this a 1984 Goldstar Sound? Reply with quote

Hi all. I have the chance to buy a Tokai Goldstar and i'm hoping you can confirm what it is and how much of it is original.

The shop is advertising it as a '84 Tokai 57 Strat'. The reason I want it is because I was born in 84 and like the idea of having a guitar the same age as me. It's very difficult finding a nice lefty from that year.

Here are a bunch of photos - it does seem to be in very good condition for a 30 year old guitar. Thanks for any help.











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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the real deal. Although i'm not sure about the pups/electronics. Neck and body are 100% Tokai. Matching codes even. Saddles and tuners seem genuine as well. A real expert can tell you if its a '84.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brokentoes wrote:
That's the real deal. Although i'm not sure about the pups/electronics. Neck and body are 100% Tokai. Matching codes even. Saddles and tuners seem genuine as well. A real expert can tell you if its a '84.


Same here. I would expect a brass ground plate on a ?84, but I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pickguard looks new, does not have the brass plate. Pickups have been taken off at some point, or are not original. No stamps on pickups. Pots not original. New knobs. Otherwise, body, neck, tuners and bridge look 100% to me.
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beedster
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. Does the 4 on the neck/body indicate 1984?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beedster wrote:
Does the 4 on the neck/body indicate 1984?


No one knows for sure what the codes mean. But it?s not the production year.
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beedster
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's unlikely I would ever know for sure what year it's from for sure? I wonder how the store decided it was an '84.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 84 is often considered the only year the Goldstars were around
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is definitely a Tokai 3 way (soft 5 way) selector switch.

Looks lovely though!

Edit- it's also worth bearing in mind that lefties are rarer, so the pickups *could* be original but a special build as the staggered poles have to be different to right handers - also possible then that Tokai did not label them E,U etc to avoid incorrect installation and thus differentiate from standard pickups.

I only hypothesize this as I have only ever seen grey bobbins on Tokais.
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beedster
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, soft 5-way. Sounds great whatever's in it, loads of bite.

The pots in this are wired in reverse, so you rotate the knobs in the opposite way to the norm. Had me worried at first when I thought I had the volume on 10 and no sound was coming out!
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi beedster,

Sorry but this is not 1984 Goldstar. I would put it closer to 1986-88
Pickups are wrong for 1984, serial number is too high, routing is later style.
On the good side, body and neck codes match, Wood is alder, should feel and sound great, but it is not a 1984 build.

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Barks67
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Peter here.

My ST50 Goldstar was bought new by me in 1987 , serial number 214268


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh one more thing. The 4 in the code indicates an April production.

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stelyn
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject: Is this a 1984 Goldstar Reply with quote

I have a 1984 left hand TST60 and think that your Goldstar is also '84 or '85. I understood that the serial numbers on the neck plate were meant to resemble the corresponding original Fender model numbers - hence mine (which I think is a replica of a 1964 Strat) shows serial number L24943.
The condition looks remarkable for a 30 year old guitar, but I have just picked mine up and I'm sure that many people would find it hard to believe the age of the instrument- Tokais obviously weather well!. Why has yours got nothing stamped on the pickups?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The control cavity looks to have masking tape covering another stamp which may or may not be the same as the visible one.
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