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TO-KAI or not TO-KAI that is the question !!!!

 
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funkilius
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: TO-KAI or not TO-KAI that is the question !!!! Reply with quote

Spotted this on the bay>>>>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261386121824?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

No Name...............

"les paul model" on headstock ......??

serial dates it to '85 (tokai serials)??

Fantastic bookmatched top......look closely .

All opinions welcome

Sorry about the title........a moment of lunacy....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it's a 1985 Tokai made guitar. Looks like a TLS-80.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261386121824?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

i assume this one ?

i looked on the dating areas but it says that "les paul model" was made early 1977

so why does the serial start with a 5 - ie 1985 ?

might have a bid on this myself but cant help thinkng something is amiss as no tokai logo in headstock
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That silk screen lettering is pretty easy to remove, so it's not much of a stretch to believe that a previous owner put a new silk screen on when they did whatever they did to the original logo.

Must have changed the truss rod cover as well.

Seems like a stupid thing to do now, but it was a different time, no actually it's always been stupid!

However, today I think it's an interesting aspect of the history of Tokais. Still, I'd try and change it back to stock if it was mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this has jumped up in price - was going to bid but not now
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we all know 85 was a funny year for Tokai, but the pcb in this looks exactly like the one I took out of my 85 Ls. I am guessing that some people think there is enough visually, to confirm it's worth a punt. Looks like it might have FEB and the pickups are the same as mine. It's not got the export model dimple and the headstock has had some serious messing about but I've messed with mine (only changed the TRB) but maybe 20 years ago someone wanted it to look like it was made by a particular american manufacturer.

I'd have it just for the case!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW

Sold for ?932........UN*******BELIEVABLE....

Did I and others miss something here or is this just bananas!!!!???????
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like someone just HAD to have that guitar. Bidding war ?? I can't see why that guitar would sell for $1500.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JVsearch wrote:


Must have changed the truss rod cover as well.

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Quite a few 1985 UK Tokai's (all non-export, open book) have the bell TRC since new. Mine did.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barks67 wrote:
JVsearch wrote:


Must have changed the truss rod cover as well.

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Quite a few 1985 UK Tokai's (all non-export, open book) have the bell TRC since new. Mine did.

Cool.
Done by local importer/distributor/retailer?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW . . . that's an amazing price for a TLS-80.
Even with an altered headstock, you can't hide the build.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JVsearch wrote:
Barks67 wrote:
JVsearch wrote:


Must have changed the truss rod cover as well.

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Quite a few 1985 UK Tokai's (all non-export, open book) have the bell TRC since new. Mine did.

Cool.
Done by local importer/distributor/retailer?


Not sure, but they are all the same stepped laminate ones as used on the Les Paul Reborn models, so most likely put on at the factory.
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