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mhoyoux
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: ESP OLDIE '54s Stratocaster Reply with quote

HAs anyone ever heard of them...?

CUstom order from ESP ?!

Thanks.




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... never seen that ESP variation before.... pretty cool. I'm a big fan of 54 strats and everything about them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now with real "American Dream"

Very cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, if that's for sale and you're not getting it, let me know. I'll be in Belgium too soon. It'll basically be the same as a Navigator, and looking at the logo, I would guess from the 1980s.

I'll say that that decal looks very amateurish, like it was a one-off typeset by hand. Not that it would bother me.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its in Japan right now. Don't worry, i'm not about to cut anyone's grass on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-ESP-OLDIE-54s-Stratocaster-1-piece-ash-body-Navigator-Japan-Vintage-MIJ-/350841561415?pt=Guitar&hash=item51afc96147
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mhoyoux
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrazenPicker wrote:
Wow, if that's for sale and you're not getting it, let me know. I'll be in Belgium too soon. It'll basically be the same as a Navigator, and looking at the logo, I would guess from the 1980s.

I'll say that that decal looks very amateurish, like it was a one-off typeset by hand. Not that it would bother me.


A fake ESP ?! With a sticker on a blank neck ?

And a one piece body...?!

It's strange that it isn't written "OldieS" with an "S"...?

What do you think about it ?!
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jacco
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool find.
NOrmally they have the black ESP logo during this period. There is a ST454 in the 1984 US ESP catalog which looks the same except for headstock shape and logo. This was probably for the Japanese market.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undetermined model and too "obscure" for the risk of buying it...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brokentoes wrote:
I think its in Japan right now. Don't worry, i'm not about to cut anyone's grass on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-ESP-OLDIE-54s-Stratocaster-1-piece-ash-body-Navigator-Japan-Vintage-MIJ-/350841561415?pt=Guitar&hash=item51afc96147


Thanks, tempting, even though I'm in the middle of a big purge.

Fair points about there being some question marks about the guitar, but the ESP custom shop in those days built pretty much anything you could describe to them (and still does I think), so I assume they had some crappy machine to make one-off decals. I could be wrong, but not in itself something that worries me too much.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhoyoux wrote:
Undetermined model and too "obscure" for the risk of buying it...


That describes most vintage Navigator. I often take the risk, but sometimes you get stuck with a guitar you regret buying (narrow nut, poly coating, etc.). That's the advantage of Tokai and Greco, where you know much more what you're buying. I've also come across some real gems though.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a recent sale on Yahoo Japan if I recall correctly. Interesting logo and with the 1-piece body was probably a high-end model.
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mhoyoux
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrazenPicker wrote:
mhoyoux wrote:
Undetermined model and too "obscure" for the risk of buying it...


That describes most vintage Navigator. I often take the risk, but sometimes you get stuck with a guitar you regret buying (narrow nut, poly coating, etc.). That's the advantage of Tokai and Greco, where you know much more what you're buying. I've also come across some real gems though.



That's clear...Those who take the "risk" will, a day, have a gem, for sure.

But I prefer to collect information and to reserve my money for confident seller/expert. That's a poitn of view. For sure, it must be a pretty guitar to play...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a special order ; the guitar is a SEV-54, from the Traditional Series.
It was available in the same price range as a Mirage Deluxe at the end of the eighties.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be some numbers on neck pocket, it gives a clue.
ESP made parts by their own and have a special order made system making some deviates from standard parameters.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything fits.
The logo is correct, and a one piece ash body is part of the specifications of a SEV-54.
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