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gnolasco
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:02 am    Post subject: Tokai LS85F advice Reply with quote

There's a Tokai LS85F for sale at a local classifieds site.
I appreciate your help to verify authenticity.

Here are the photos:
http://olx-t.imgrap.com/ui/23/17/02/436471502_4x.jpg?x=1364255081
http://olx-t.imgrap.com/ui/23/17/02/436471502_5x.jpg?x=1364255081
http://olx-t.imgrap.com/ui/23/17/02/436471502_15x.jpg?x=1364255081
http://olx-t.imgrap.com/ui/23/17/02/436471502_7x.jpg?x=1364255081

Specifications announced by the seller:
BODY
Flamed Sycamore + Maple top
Mahogany back
NECK
Mahogany one-piece set neck
FINGERBOARD
Rosewood
BRIDGE
LS-VB bridge
LS-VT Tailpiece
PICKUPS
PAF ? Vintage MK2
CONTROLS
2 vol. ? 2 Tone ? 3 way switch
COLOR
Violin Finish

Regarding the price, the seller is asking 600 euros. Do you think its a fair value?

Thank you very much.
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funkilius
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
Looks good....if asking for ?600 he's probably willing to settle for less than that!!
try ?500 .....see what happens.
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worth more, be fair, offer him ?700.00.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you offer him/her ?700 if you think its fair

but seriously .....what would the correct average price be???
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gnolasco
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funkilius wrote:
but seriously .....what would the correct average price be???

I also wanted to know an average price...

Anyway, I'll try it today.
Hope I like it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnolasco wrote:
funkilius wrote:
but seriously .....what would the correct average price be???

I also wanted to know an average price...


I don?t know if it?s an average price, but I'm asking 750? for my dead mint(not played) LS80 HDC, production year 2010.
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Diamond
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

felixcatus wrote:
gnolasco wrote:
funkilius wrote:
but seriously .....what would the correct average price be???

I also wanted to know an average price...


I don?t know if it?s an average price, but I'm asking 750? for my dead mint(not played) LS80 HDC, production year 2010.


Actually, it was an LS92 in 2010.

Do you have a photo, I love the HDC colour, I haven't seen a 92 in that colour.
I've got a 98F HDC with zebra pickups incoming.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diamond wrote:

Actually, it was an LS92 in 2010.

Do you have a photo, I love the HDC colour, I haven't seen a 92 in that colour.
I've got a 98F HDC with zebra pickups incoming.

I think this one is called 80 because it?s from the UK market(ULS).




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O n reflection......if the lf85f is up for grabs at ?600 with case........................................................GRAB IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

felixcatus wrote:
Diamond wrote:

Actually, it was an LS92 in 2010.

Do you have a photo, I love the HDC colour, I haven't seen a 92 in that colour.
I've got a 98F HDC with zebra pickups incoming.

I think this one is called 80 because it?s from the UK market(ULS).






Wow, that HDC is a beautiful colour.

It's an old box, that's why it says 80.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diamond wrote:

It's an old box, that's why it says 80.


That makes more sense than my explanation.
So, LS92 it is.
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gnolasco
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So i went to try it yesterday.
The guitar is badly treated... has a few dings and the hardware is rusted.
Furthermore its very dirty ... how is it possible someone did not clean a guitar that is up for sale
Most importantly, it didn't played well. Needs a good setup.
The hard case is not the original, but a cheap one from thomann.
I can get it for 550 euros, but i'm not very convinced...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnolasco wrote:
So i went to try it yesterday.
The guitar is badly treated... has a few dings and the hardware is rusted.
Furthermore its very dirty ... how is it possible someone did not clean a guitar that is up for sale
Most importantly, it didn't played well. Needs a good setup.
The hard case is not the original, but a cheap one from thomann.
I can get it for 550 euros, but i'm not very convinced...


Vintage Series Tokais do not come with cases, the case is not included in the price.

That case you call "a cheap one from Thomann" is far better than the current Gibson or Tokai cases...that's 80 Euros on it's own.
Take that off 550 Euros and you're paying 470 Euros for an LS98F.

I don't see any rust in the photos you posted, maybe dirty or tarnished nickel, but I can't see rust.
I reckon that guitar with a pro setup and good clean up ends up being a killer Les Paul for 470 Euros.
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gnolasco
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they came with the case:
http://www.rockemmusic.com/product/tokai-love-rock-ls95f-tbs-electric-guitar-tobacco-sunburst-wcase

The case is not the one in the pictures but this:
http://www.thomann.de/pt/thomanneguitarcase_lpstyle.htm

But probably you are right and it is a good deal
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one recently which was in good condition apart from some tarnishing on the pick up covers.
Fabulous guitar, I've now just purchased my third Tokai, a 95q, I think they're that good. As said, give a good set up and clean and you have a great guitar.
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