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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Do U want them? Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261103454557&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123 Gabe.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic titled topic... a marketing agent couldn't do it better...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh Heh! Gabe
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that Mike who got banned by Ned a couple of years ago?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From his gruff response to the query I would say yes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably is Mike. A knowledgeable gent from my experience meeting him at a get together in Leeds and reading his previous forum comments.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iainblack wrote:
From his gruff response to the query I would say yes :D

Well, Iain, I'd say 'straight', rather than 'gruff' (though I note your smiley). Mike's straightness seems to have been what some others have found difficult to deal with.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike came round to my house as few years back to compare goldtops. He is a very nice guy and I miss his contributions to this forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johny642000 wrote:
Mike came round to my house as few years back to compare goldtops. He is a very nice guy and I miss his contributions to this forum.


Yep, was a great guy on here - did a hell of a lot towards assisting people to get info about Tokais.

Definitely missed.

If you read this Mike, hope everything is going great with you!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johny642000 wrote:
He is a very nice guy and I miss his contributions to this forum.




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really respect Mike's knowledge on guitars and also miss his contribution to taking us forward in our understanding of Tokai. I suppose my light hearted comment was reflecting on my opinion that his straight approach comes across as 'attack mode' via email (I've seen it on other forums recently).

Couple that with the fact that he is blanking me after he pulled all his photos from my Tokai book (half the content) after the work I put in to creating it. This was due to him severing all ties with the forum. I hope Mike is reading this as I did print a test copy of the book with his guitars in it at my own expense and would be happy to send it to him as a record of his fine collection.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he did have a couple of triggers that would upset him big style.

One was any mention of "lawsuit"
(fair enough because there never was a lawsuit)

It's a shame about the pictures for your book, but unfortunately there are occasionally times when a man has to take a stand on something, and whatever the reasons were it seems like that's what happened.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm over it now and think we got a better book in the end (80 pages). On the lawsuit, the jury is still out:

quote from paul Bacon Squier book:

'Billboard reported one such action: "Following an earlier warning issued by the Fender / Rodgers / Rhodes division of CBS instruments, US Customs agents recently seized two shipments of guitars illegally using the Fender headstocks and shipped to San Francisco from Japan".

It does not say who's product it was though.

Further: Fender's distributors in the UK and Germany threatened Tokai's trade outlets in those countries with similar moves. "But it was such an overwhelming situation that we couldn't fight it only with legal means" recalls Roger Balmer, Fender's new head of marketing and sales. "We had to take other steps"

and that is how Fender JV and Squier was born
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There WAS an actual lawsuit. In Finland, Gibson vs Tokai.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirrorboy wrote:
There WAS an actual lawsuit. In Finland, Gibson vs Tokai.


Is there a transcript and translation that you know of? What was the issue?

Did it actually go to court? Most people, me included, think of "there was a lawsuit against Tokai" or "Tokai were sued" as meaning Tokai got taken to court and have a judgement against them.

I realise there have been several threats made, but that's not what I mean.
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