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Rare MB Headstock Strat-Can I learn more about this please?
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird? No, Tokai!
very interesting...
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,
I have a feeling that the PAF stickers on those pickups are not for DiMarzio. They are for the next generation of Tokai 'A' pickups or the C.A.R. pickups used on the U.S. models being exported.
It's hard to tell without seeing all the guitar, body and neck codes, etc to determine what is is and its age.
Some recent information outlined that ONLY the ST-100 had DiMarzio VS-1 and all the other models had Tokai-made 'E' or 'U' pickups.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two 84 Goldstar St 80s.
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=156227&highlight=#156227


http://brochures.yokochou.com/guitar-and-amp/tokai/1984/en_05.html
Hi Pete, here`s the 84 catalogue .Notice that the Goldstar st 80`s were fitted with black backed Di Marzio VS 1s with plastic covered as opposed to cloth covered wires and little round rubber grommets as opposed to mounting springs.
As you can see ,DouDou`s are exactly the same as mine minus the PAF stickers.They may have had them originally but who knows!

http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/bluejeannot/Tokai%20St%2080/?action=view&current=paf002.jpg

http://s670.photobucket.com/albums/vv70/doudoubass/?action=view&current=PICT6835.jpg

They also have slab boards as opposed to lam,referred to as flat rather than round in the brochure,laquer as opposed to poly finish, celluloid pickguards and D as opposed to C shaped necks,just like my 3 tone sunburst St 80 and DouDou Bass`s strat. now resprayed blue.
The rosewood necked Goldstar St 80s were supposedly based on a 1960 strat as opposed to the usual rosewood necked 1964 St50s. St 100s seem to be fitted with some kind of locking nut and Floyd type whammy(E.T. tremelo) as well. Regards Gabe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the confusion, let me clarify.
'Slab' fingerboards were used on Fendah Strats from 1959 - 1962
Until the end of Springy, all ST-80 had 64U necks and Tokai 'E' pickups - only the ST-100 had VS-1 and ST-70 had a 'slab' neck.
By 1984 Goldstar specs had changed to TST-80 with slab board and VS-1.
The introduction of the 'slab' neck was largely due to the U.S. model TST-62 being released with 1962 specs (which included a slab board.)
SRV was still an endorser and his No.1 guitar was a 1959 slab board Fendah.
Interestingly the slab board only lasted a few years before going back to a 64 lam board.
For the record, I have always liked the Slab board neck - it is a little chunkier with great tone and feel, i've just never been able to aquire one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:

Until the end of Springy, all ST-80 had 64U necks and Tokai 'E' pickups - only the ST-100 had VS-1 and ST-70 had a 'slab' neck.


Not all the st100 Springy had VS-1, is it right? I'd never seen one but that means nothing... my st100 springy has "E" stamped pick ups...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me that a slab board gives the guitar a little more midrange.This could be purely subjective though.What does everybody else think. Gabe
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bluejeannot,
I'd love to see some more pics of that sunborst TST-80 YSOR.
Things like headstock, serial#, stamp codes if possible, bridge and pickups.
This will go a long way to finding the sequence patterns for Tokai.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as I get the time I`ll do that for you Peter. Gabe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter, here are the photos.The neck plate serial number is a little hard to see but it`s L11357,and the machine heads are stamped Tokai like a Springy not De Luxe as on other Goldies.Hope this helps.All the best, Gabe.











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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just seen this on the Strat Forum,some more Di Marzio VS 1s with the PAF stickers fitted to another Goldie ST 80. http://imgur.com/a/MjYfG
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