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1982 EG-500 - 1800 neck?
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helge_e21
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: 1982 EG-500 - 1800 neck? Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I found this EG500 from 1982. Might this be a leftover EGF-1800 neck?! It has the small frets and the large Greco logo.

What do you think?



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears to have survived a sandstorm in the desert.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transitional model.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed that one too, an odd 1982 with the fat TRC and the lettering. Looks like it might have gone for a swim somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EG500 Super Real tsunami survivor.

Cali Girl wrote:
It appears to have survived a sandstorm in the desert.


Better than a sandstorm in the ocean!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: 1982 EG-500 - 1800 neck? Reply with quote

helge_e21 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I found this EG500 from 1982. Might this be a leftover EGF-1800 neck?! It has the small frets and the large Greco logo.

What do you think?



I saw a 1981 EGF-850 on Yahoo Auction with bold logo, and here is another

http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/~yjibika/1981GrecoEGF850.html

I have never seen a model under EGF1200 from 1980 with bold logo.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wulfman wrote:
I noticed that one too, an odd 1982 with the fat TRC and the lettering. Looks like it might have gone for a swim somewhere.


Looking at how the jackplate is split (perhaps from expanding wood), I'd say it took a little dip as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: 1982 EG-500 - 1800 neck? Reply with quote

greco_burst wrote:


I saw a 1981 EGF-850 on Yahoo Auction with bold logo, and here is another

http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/~yjibika/1981GrecoEGF850.html


But this one has the correct large frets. Do EG-500 have small frets?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 1982 EG-500 - 1800 neck? Reply with quote

helge_e21 wrote:


I found this EG500 from 1982
What do you think?


Based on the model sticker and closed "O" Greco emblem it is probably a late 1981 or even a 1980 EG model, and not 1982.
1982 EG-59-50 transitional Super Reals generally have thicker burst color edges, like Gibson Deluxe counterparts from that era.
I've seen a number of pre-Mint Collection models with Mint Collection style rectangular bell TRC's. Did you get a 2 xxxx serial number for it ?

Frets look like large variety in lo res pics to me, but I could be wrong.
EGF-1800's came with both small + large frets, EGF-1200 came with small frets only. Is the neck profile '58 or '59 ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, the serial number is: 2 7002.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you have really stumbled on an odd or rare Super Real Helge.
The 40 transitional Super Real 1982's I've documented, were all open O, and made in the 1st few months of 1982. (# 2 0002 - # 2 17xx) except for 1 mid year EG-59-50 Super Real with no FEB, # 2 4xxx, and this one.
Yours was completed near the end of 1982, based on the serial #.
I'm almost inclined to believe it was a late 1981 build, that sat for a year waiting for special order pickups, or possibly the last left over 1981 neck ? It's the best explanation for a closed O inlay and 1981 rear decal.
1982 decals are smaller and rectangular with just a 700 numeral. There were some regular blank headstock Mint Collection models beginning at # 2 1000 which might mean quite a few transitionals numbered higher than # 2 1000 may have been delayed, waiting for parts, but all begun in 1982 instead of 1981, like yours.
Is there any evidence the 2 in your serial # might have been altered ? Are the pickups screamin' ceramic magnet pickups ?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thats interesting stuff here. Thanks for the detailed answers.

I haven't received the guitar yet. It was quite cheap, so I didn't care about any damages. I thought it was an interesting guitar, I felt good about for some reason.

I will take better pictures once I receive it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More pics would be great.

If the neck tenon ends at the start of the pickup cavity (doesn't extend into the pickup cavity) then it's definitely a 1981 neck.
All 1982 models had long tenons and fret edge binding (except for the one other out of sequence EG-59-50 #2-4xxx I mentioned above, so far)

You may want to check pickups , if/when you get a chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its finally here and doesn't look bad at all. It must have been played a lot, but it works and plays good.

It has a two piece body and top. Here are some pictures:



















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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange neck, the frets almost look jumbo to me, but the logo is a 1200 or 1800 logo.

Fretboard is a nice brown color.

Not sure which is more vintage, the Greco or the couch
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