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Cheap Washburn?

Post by Max The Dog » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:28 am

Saw this in the local paper for ?250, went to have a look and got it for ?150. Made in Korea 2006 mahogany body and neck, maple cap, SD '59
at the bridge and a Custom Custom at the neck. Buzz Feiten tuning system, VCC, (voice contour control) turns the H/Buckers into single coils
No big deal but it plays well and sounds well through my Romany in both H/bucking mode and single coil, the trouble is there is no real tone control
with this system. Has anybody had any experience of these?

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Post by JohnA » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:31 am

Love the shape of that Pete, never played one but you got a great deal, buy two seymour duncans and get a free guitar :D

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Post by Max The Dog » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:44 am

Yes its a kind of LP and Tele cross to me. I'm just wondering if they are real SDs or fakes, one says Made in America and the other Made in the USA.

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Post by Dave_Mc » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:51 am

I've played the one without the maple top, the wi65pro. Nice guitar, I didn't like the vcc either (i thought it switched to parallel wiring, though, but i could be wrong)- push-pulls along with a normal tone control would be much more useful if you ask me.

They came stock with duncans (custom custom and 59) so unless something weird's going on, i'm guessing your duncans are genuine.

EDIT: i think ?150 is a pretty good deal.

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Post by stratman323 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:21 am

Those pickups would probably cost you ?100 if you tried to buy them secondhand on eBay. New, they would cost ?150.

Here's the pickups I initially put into my LS70 so you can compare - there's one '59 here (I think) & one Pearly Gates.

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Post by Dave_Mc » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:11 pm

here's a thought- on the duncan website the custom custom is supposedly from the pro shop. Might that explain the different markings on the back?

Easiest thing to do is just to ask at the duncan forum though, I'm guessing...

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Post by Max The Dog » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:28 am

Thank you for your comments, I went to the SD forum and asked and they seem to think they are genuine and the writing on the back plates changed, the older ones have Made in the USA and the later ones Made in America. Would it be a big job to change to push pull on the tone pots, and being a Korean made guitar would the pots be metric? I'm not too clever with wiring so do you think it would be expensive to get done? All comments appreciated.

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Post by DaveWW » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:42 am

Pete, from your pictures it looks like your pickups only have two wires each (inc' the grounded outer sheath on the braided one) and you need each pickup to have 4 for push pull coil splitting.

See here
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wi ... _2t_3w_2pp

The conversion isn't expensive but you need the right pickups to be able to do it. Being Korean the pot's are almost certain to be metric.

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Post by Max The Dog » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:08 am

Hi Dave thanks for that, I think you were looking at the wrong pictures, the pups with the braided wire were Stratman's mine are the ones above.
I think they do have 4 wires. Here is a picture of the control cavity.

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Post by DaveWW » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:29 am

Yep, that spaghetti looks like 4 wires :D The installed pots look like cheap small ones but you should be able to install full size metric ones.

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Post by stratman323 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:57 am

DaveWW wrote:The installed pots look like cheap small ones but you should be able to install full size metric ones.
Full size Alpha (metric) pots can be bought from axesrus - great service & free postage.

http://www.axesrus.com/axeElectronicsPots.htm

They also sell push/pull pots.

A real improvement over push/pull pots are push/push pots, in my opinion. But the only place I've found that sells them is WD, & they are US specs - i.e. Imperial, same as CTS, so they are likley to be too big for most Asian guitars, unless you're prepared to enlarge the hole slightly.

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Post by Max The Dog » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:05 am

Yes they are good people to use for parts, I have always used them ever since I found them. I also have to agree with you about the push push pots Mike, Yamaha use them on the SG's, so I wonder if they are metric?
I may well email Yamaha and ask.
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Post by stratman323 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:29 am

If you find a place that sells metric size push/push pots, please let me know. I looked but I couldn't find any. In fact, please let me know a day or so before you post the info. on here, so I can order a couple of them before they sell out!

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Post by DaveWW » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:33 am

I always fancied trying this one which gives you a phase reverse as well as single coil options

LPKIT02: LP "Mr Page" Orange Drop Wiring Kit

At the bottom of this page

http://www.axetec.co.uk/axetec%20guitar ... ps_029.htm


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Post by stratman323 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:42 am

I have something similar to that on my LS70. Both tone pots are coil taps for that pickup, & the bottom volume pot is a phase switch. I use the out of phase option far more than I use the coil taps. Most humbuckers don't sound great when the coils are split - it's a great idea in theory, but usually a bit of a let-down in practice.

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