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portage_60
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: is this a 59 RI? Reply with quote

hopefully the you guys can help on this one. Im trying to see if this is a 59 RI http://cgi.ebay.com/1993-Orville-Gibson-59-RI-Les-Paul-curly-maple-top-/110584470878?pt=Guitar&hash=item19bf591d5e
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: is this a 59 RI? Reply with quote

portage_60 wrote:
hopefully the you guys can help on this one. Im trying to see if this is a 59 RI http://cgi.ebay.com/1993-Orville-Gibson-59-RI-Les-Paul-curly-maple-top-/110584470878?pt=Guitar&hash=item19bf591d5e

Yep.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But possibly a veneer top, which makes it a "no buy" for me. It also has a strange look to it as far as the selector switch wiring channel routing visible through the neck pickup cavity. Doesn't look like long tenon either, but maybe I just can't tell from the photo. The finish looks almost too shiny to be nitro, but once again it could just be the photos.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freebird wrote:
It also has a strange look to it as far as the selector switch wiring channel routing visible through the neck pickup cavity. Doesn't look like long tenon either, but maybe I just can't tell from the photo. The finish looks almost too shiny to be nitro, but once again it could just be the photos.


Typical Terada wiring channel. Would like to see better neck pics, and a couple pics of the back. From the front, in excellent condition.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick51 wrote:
Freebird wrote:
It also has a strange look to it as far as the selector switch wiring channel routing visible through the neck pickup cavity. Doesn't look like long tenon either, but maybe I just can't tell from the photo. The finish looks almost too shiny to be nitro, but once again it could just be the photos.


Typical Terada wiring channel. Would like to see better neck pics, and a couple pics of the back. From the front, in excellent condition.


Mick,

Do you think veneer or solid? Villager has a solid top that looks VERY similar.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guitar just sold for a best offer of $1250 USD. The seller answered a few questions for me before it sold. I'm glad I didn't cave in and do a BIN. I think it is a veneer top by the looks of the control cavity photos
Here are his comments and his link to more photos

"things to be aware of:
- ding on back of neck (it's about 1/4" long, maybe 1/16" deep)
- slight worming on back, but otherwise clean
- 1 ding on corner of headstock
- pix of control cavity show a bit about how the top is constructed. looks like approx. 3/16" of maple laid over a pc. of mahogany? hard to tell, & I'm not a luthier.
- also, the strap buttons in pix are schallers, but I will ship w. gibson strap buttons & keep the schallers.
- note thin binding cutaway
- slight separation of binding on treble side waist. easily repaired w. glue & clamps, but I never bothered. the guitar has been like this since I got it."


http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k117/alschnier/orville/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll let you know in a week or two. Pics are, at best, inconclusive. The top has never been drilled for a pickguard, just like my 1991 LPS-QM; and, the ObG on Villager's site that you referenced. I can afford to take a flyer on that.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd assumed the OP was looking to buy it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will bet its veneer, i sold an identical one in honeyburst a couple years ago, fat quilt and veneer top, heh i offered him too!!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick51 wrote:
I'll let you know in a week or two. Pics are, at best, inconclusive. The top has never been drilled for a pickguard, just like my 1991 LPS-QM; and, the ObG on Villager's site that you referenced. I can afford to take a flyer on that.


I had an Orville P90 GT with that feature.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
i will bet its veneer, i sold an identical one in honeyburst a couple years ago, fat quilt and veneer top, heh i offered him too!!


You are correct, Mark. Veneer top; and also a two piece back, despite the seller's representation of one piece. Relatively light in weight, just over 8.5 pounds, and quite resonant.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some of the backs can be very hard to tell. My ObG terrada is 3 piece and it took a while to see all the seams.

My greco EGC1000 is suppose to be a 2 piece by catalog specs but I swear it's a 1....if there is a seam I honestly can't see it.

I know some people scam but it could also just be legit "didn't know".
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soundcreation wrote:
some of the backs can be very hard to tell. My ObG terrada is 3 piece and it took a while to see all the seams.

I know some people scam but it could also just be legit "didn't know".


I agree, and I'm not upset with the seller; it is a very good sounding guitar. However, even in the pics on his gallery, it was pretty apparent; under a bright light, it jumped out. Perhaps I'm just more critical. But, not an issue for me at all on this guitar.
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