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karppi
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I don't think because Tokai doesn't make LPs in clown burst...


Speak of clown burts. Just one of many examples from the website of the forum sponsor:



Very very norlin like and there is many more. What has happened? Never seen so clowny bursts before from Tokai. Is this some kind of 70s trend or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. That is a bit borderline
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I ordered 4 Gibbie R6s before I got one put together properly. 1 even had the tone pots unwired!!!!!!! HELLO!!!


You must be quite an unlucky person...

My own R8 was a great guitar, and the limited experience I've had with 4 or 5 other Historics was positive. Yes there was the odd fault in fit and finish, but that is meaningless when it comes to playing the thing and checking out the tone. Also I couldn't give a shite about small faults in the fit and finish if the guitar sounds good.

And to be honest, if you look hard enough you can find the odd fault in guitars from every maker. There have even been examples on this very board where supposedly great guitars don't work out. Add in the internet effect where people are now expected to chuck down a lot of money based on photos and sales puff... things aren't going to get any better than right now for new guitars.


Spend your bread as you see fit. But for me, if I order a $3000 guitar and I see tool marks on the fretboard it's going back. You want to settle for that have at it.

As far as finding fault with every maker, that's for sure. But to the point of this thread, Tokai seems much more consistent. As does Fender Japan.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pages plexitone wrote:
JVsearch wrote:
pages plexitone wrote:
I ordered 4 Gibbie R6s before I got one put together properly. 1 even had the tone pots unwired!!!!!!! HELLO!!!


You must be quite an unlucky person...

My own R8 was a great guitar, and the limited experience I've had with 4 or 5 other Historics was positive. Yes there was the odd fault in fit and finish, but that is meaningless when it comes to playing the thing and checking out the tone. Also I couldn't give a shite about small faults in the fit and finish if the guitar sounds good.

And to be honest, if you look hard enough you can find the odd fault in guitars from every maker. There have even been examples on this very board where supposedly great guitars don't work out. Add in the internet effect where people are now expected to chuck down a lot of money based on photos and sales puff... things aren't going to get any better than right now for new guitars.


Spend your bread as you see fit. But for me, if I order a $3000 guitar and I see tool marks on the fretboard it's going back. You want to settle for that have at it.

As far as finding fault with every maker, that's for sure. But to the point of this thread, Tokai seems much more consistent. As does Fender Japan.


I agree Fender Japan and Tokai can safely be bought without playing them as far as fit and finish goes, but tonally, that's another matter. Would you really send back a great sounding and playing guitar for a few stuff ups in the fit and and finish? I wouldn't, that would be a bad decision, but you have at it!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually don't recall saying anything about their sound. But now that you mention it, nothing special in that department. Bad decision to keep a piece of crap because it's supposed to be cool. But rock on...

And for the record, if it were truly were a tone monster, I'd keep it too. But not the case, it was just poor quality control.
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