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tubuie
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Pickup change? Reply with quote

Hi there guys!I've got an LS 85 (2007) model.Just wondering,do I really need to change the pickups?I mean,is it going to be such a big difference on the tone?A luthier told me "stick with the Tokai stock pickups otherwise if you really want to change the pickups you must be ready to buy some really expensive ones (like 250? each) to hear the quality of them,and not the common brands like S.D.,Dimarzio,Gibson,ect, they will not offer you anything better than your stock ones". Is that true?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Pickup change? Reply with quote

tubuie wrote:
Hi there guys!I've got an LS 85 (2007) model.Just wondering,do I really need to change the pickups?I mean,is it going to be such a big difference on the tone?A luthier told me "stick with the Tokai stock pickups otherwise if you really want to change the pickups you must be ready to buy some really expensive ones (like 250? each) to hear the quality of them,and not the common brands like S.D.,Dimarzio,Gibson,ect, they will not offer you anything better than your stock ones". Is that true?


"Do I really need to change the pickups?"....... that's entirely up to you. Are you unhappy with them? What are you looking for in terms of tone and output - rock, blues, out of phase, crunchy, mellow, etc.

Stock MKII pickups are great but everyone is different - I've never swapped out any of mine - yet I have replaced Gibson pickups with Seth Lovers........ go figure. You can certainly tweak your amp settings to fine tune your tone and you can do alot with your tone / volume settings on your guitar
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok!The thing is that the stock pickups are pretty decent,but they don't have four conductor wiring that I was looking forward too.I really want to have more tone versatility for coil splitting.So, what do you think? p.s. I play rock,hard rock,blues
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock & hard blues, you would hardly ever use the coil-taps, IMO coil-taps never really work well enough to make them useable anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel the need to make my guitar more twangy some times to get that sort of a P-90 tone out of it!Thats why I was thinking for a coil splitting thing!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could put that humbucker sized P90 in the bridge or neck position, or maybe even try a pair of them?
Fralin does a couple, called P92 and Twangmaster, have a look:
http://www.fralinpickups.com/humbuckers.asp
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JVsearch wrote:
Maybe you could put that humbucker sized P90 in the bridge or neck position, or maybe even try a pair of them?
Fralin does a couple, called P92 and Twangmaster, have a look:
http://www.fralinpickups.com/humbuckers.asp



Yup.... fits right into the humbucker routing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your luthier is a very clever man, listen to him.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diamond wrote:
Your luthier is a very clever man, listen to him.


Very true, the stock tokai pickups are right up there with duncans etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want the best of both worlds humbucker and p90/single coil when split, you could try something like Seymour Duncan P-Rails.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/prails_shpr1/

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/prails_hot/


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuBee wrote:
If you want the best of both world humbucker and p90/single coil when split, you could try something like Seymour Duncan P-Rails.

[urlhttp://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/prails_shpr1/[/url]

[urlhttp://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/prails_hot/[/url]


LuBee, have you tried the P-Rails? Sound like a great idea, would be good to know if they deliver!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuBee wrote:
If you want the best of both world humbucker and p90/single coil when split, you could try something like Seymour Duncan P-Rails.

[urlhttp://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/prails_shpr1/[/url]

[urlhttp://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/prails_hot/[/url]


http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/prails_shpr1/

I looked at those when they came out - it did seem like the Holy Grail - HB, P90 & Strat all in one. But...to get all the sounds you need a 3 way mini-toggle, a push-pull pot will only give you two of them, which kinda misses the point. But it's an intriguing idea. Anyone tried them?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never tried them personally but have seen some pretty good videos.

The first is from Frank Falbo of SD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZhJXcSVnfs&feature=related

The next are from a guy off the SD forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q9VkER0dmw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDVlvyYry4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSJ7D9IXfrg&feature=related
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks LuBee, I'll check them out later, off out for a beer now

Mike, what about a 3-way rotary switch in place of a tone control, and re-wire so you have a master tone?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's fine if you know where to get a 3 way rotary switch. But anyway that wouldn't help if I fitted one to the neck position of my Tele - nowhere to put the 3 way switch.
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