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Please help me date this guitar, I believe it is 1982?
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nobbie
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Please help me date this guitar, I believe it is 1982? Reply with quote

Tokai Strat, Goldstar Sound, Oldies but Goldies
Black Body, White strum plate.
No serial number on headstock
6 digit Serial Number on Neck Plate - 213837.
Little sticker on back of neck saying made in Japan, at base by the neck plate
Tokai is written in script
Bridge says Final Prospec
I'm pretty sure everything on it looks original (volume and tone buttons have yellowed)

Couldn't find the Catalog page mentioned here to try to find out more myself, so appreciate anyone's input.

Many thanks.
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marcusnieman
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures, please.
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nobbie
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick reply.

There are some pictures I've loaded to Flickr here;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolanphil/sets/72157622465613248/

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbie wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply.

There are some pictures I've loaded to Flickr here;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolanphil/sets/72157622465613248/

Cheers


Thanks... it's actually a late 83 or 84 Goldstar (go to the dating and ID section of the forum and have a peek) with the correct headstock and transitional logo.

Juding from the tuners, probably an ST42 or equivalent.

Nice guitar
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nobbie
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Marcus!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beware the crappy pickups though.Gabe.
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nobbie
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to change them, what would you recommend?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a 1984/5 to me. What pickups have you got in it?

The earlier Springy Sound ST-42 had grey-bottom pickups marked U. I think the Goldstars with those tuners had ceramic bar magnet pickups in the TST-42 and grey-bottom pickups in the TST-48.
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nobbie
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has the grey backed pickups installed.

I've added pictures to Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolanphil/sets/72157622465613248/

I was thinking of switching them for the Fender Vintage Noiseless. Anyone got good experience with these?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbie wrote:
It has the grey backed pickups installed.

I've added pictures to Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolanphil/sets/72157622465613248/

I was thinking of switching them for the Fender Vintage Noiseless. Anyone got good experience with these?


As mirrorboy stated, your p'ups have the ceramic bar magnets. There certainly are better Alnico replacements. Might as well upprade the pots and certainly, the capacitor.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the quick reply.

As I've now moved to India, there is a distinct lack of decent guitar shops around so I'd have to choose upgrades on recommendations and then have them fitted here.

Opening this up for a wide ranging debate on which are best pick-ups, also what should I be ordering for Pots etc?

Thanks all.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi nobbie, what kind of music do you play? Your original ceramic pickups aren't too bad if you play 'metal'.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirrorboy wrote:
Hi nobbie, what kind of music do you play? Your original ceramic pickups aren't too bad if you play 'metal'.


Good point. Nobody here can suggest the "right" pickups for you, it depends entirely on your musical tastes, the amp you'll be using it with, etc. etc. We all have our own ideas about what makes the perfect pickup. Try Harmony Central for reviews of different pickups. Or keep the originals if you prefer a slightly edgier & more raucous tone.

If they still work well, I would leave the original pots, they should still be fine after 25 years of use. Personally I would put a .022 capacitor in it, something like an Orange Drop would be a cheap but worthwhile upgrade.

It's a Goldstar ST40 (not 42) and it could be from late 1983 up till the late 80s some time (depending on where in the world it was bought - this is why we ask all new members to add their location to their profile), though probably it's from 1984 or 85. Goldstar serial numbers don't indicate year of manufacture, unfortunately. Should be nice - enjoy.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I (try to!) play a wide variety of stuff but like a warmer softer sound for the blues mainly. I can use my effects to alter specific sounds.

I actually got the guitar about 8 years ago, from Nottingham in the UK and only recently picked it up again, which is a real shame, but glad I did.

I use a Marshall Valvestate amp
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd look at changing the amp before you spend money on pickups. Tons of choice out there now that will widdle all over the valvestate for not much dosh!
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