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Tokai 80s ES-100/150 or orville by gibson reissue?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:23 am    Post subject: Tokai 80s ES-100/150 or orville by gibson reissue? Reply with quote

I'm curious about these two es-335 type guitars, old tokai es-100 and es-150 are amazing for sure, but I'd like to know how orville by gibson reissues rate against these, as I'm going to have to make a decision between one.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Tokai 80s ES-100/150 or orville by gibson reissue? Reply with quote

bruno wrote:
I'm curious about these two es-335 type guitars, old tokai es-100 and es-150 are amazing for sure, but I'd like to know how orville by gibson reissues rate against these, as I'm going to have to make a decision between one.

thanks


Haven't played an OBG (are you looking for an old one as well?) but I can say without any hesitation that an 81 ES100 is as good as any GIBSON 335 on the street.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to knock the OBG but if I were in the market for either an early ES-150 or the OBG, I would go for the Tokai by virtue of the old wood alone, if nothing else
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
not to knock the OBG but if I were in the market for either an early ES-150 or the OBG, I would go for the Tokai by virtue of the old wood alone, if nothing else


+1

My issue with ObG in general (and it is probably just me being paranoid), is that they were contracted by Gibson. Therefore my theory is they could have been "encouraged" to not make the guitars too good. The other MIJ companies wouldn't have had that conflict of interest.

Paranoid delusions aside, I'd take the Tokai in a second. Just my two cents. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13677&start=0
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanC wrote:
MIJvintage wrote:
not to knock the OBG but if I were in the market for either an early ES-150 or the OBG, I would go for the Tokai by virtue of the old wood alone, if nothing else


+1

My issue with ObG in general (and it is probably just me being paranoid), is that they were contracted by Gibson. Therefore my theory is they could have been "encouraged" to not make the guitars too good. The other MIJ companies wouldn't have had that conflict of interest.

Paranoid delusions aside, I'd take the Tokai in a second. Just my two cents. Good luck.


ObG are better than comparable gibsons in my opinion..

the tokai will have older wood but the ObG reissue 335's are excellent guitars..

not a huge difference overall...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see you back on the boards Mark. Hope you had a nice break!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, almost a month since your last post

hope you had a fine & relaxing vacation

good to see such a knowledgeable TF 'old timer' as yourself back in the saddle
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah cheers ..

lovely hols by the sea..heh
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just received this 1981 es 100 in mint condition but for a few tiny indents........There is no label in the sound hole but a 100 sticker on the back of the headstock.Can someone tell me if that is normal or is the sticker missing.

Any suggestion to remove the static from one of the volume pots?






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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sticker missing I think..

just twist the pot 100 times fully open and closed, if that doesn't work use some contact cleaner, but it will reduce the life of the pot as it strips the grease from the track..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mark,will try that......

Also,It was sold as a ES100"R" as opposed to a "J"....Any way to confirm that without the sticker?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hunter wrote:
Thanks Mark,will try that......

Also,It was sold as a ES100"R" as opposed to a "J"....Any way to confirm that without the sticker?


The difference between the two models is the pickups. The R(ock) model are hotter than the J(azz) version.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was tracking that one on evilBay

If I would have been in the market for a 335 type, I would have been all over that

You got a really nice price on that IMO; I have seen them go for waaaaaaaaaaaaay more .............

Congrats; she is a real beauty & w/OHSC too
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
I was tracking that one on evilBay

If I would have been in the market for a 335 type, I would have been all over that

You got a really nice price on that IMO; I have seen them go for waaaaaaaaaaaaay more .............

Congrats; she is a real beauty & w/OHSC too


Yeah, forgot to mention, that is a beautiful guitar. Enjoy it in good health.
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