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Post by villager » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:53 am

i like it to be there if I need it, which, occasionally, for screaming solo's I do, heh I also have a greco EGF-1800 with some EMG-85's in her ..but dont tell anyone..!! :oops: :oops:

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:55 am

HAHA...i'm addicted to a nice solid gain channel, only problem is, i hear the sound i want on CD's but can never find an amp that sounds the same. Looks like i need a studio as well then..... :cry:

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Post by villager » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:56 am

I am leaning towards the cornford mk50 mk2 ..as i love the hellcat head..

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:08 am

I am going to get a JCM800 Marshall clone off Nick at Ceriatone with a few mods, i know an amp builder in Brisbane that is very good, he can make any more changes i need.....i hope....

Mick
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Post by Olric » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:42 am

villager wrote:yes thats me..looking at a possible dumble purchase..

but I have concerns the seller is not genuine..
Damn that would be cool... I understand your concerns in that matter.

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Post by Dave_Mc » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:36 pm

villager wrote:yes i have looked at all of those, thata the kind of thing i am looking for..heh but to choose...
yeah, i know, choosing is the problem. It took me about a year, maybe 18 months, before i decided on my engl. :lol: plus i've bought other amps since, too... :)

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Post by villager » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:22 am

while looking at amps i found this, and had to share..


I would love to be able to walk into a music store, and play like this..


http://www.gazotube.com/FYnlaQ_j6Tw.html

does anyone know if the engle does good loud clean?

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Post by Diodibuh » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:46 am

I tried couple of Engl amps but wasn't really impressed.

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Post by villager » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:54 am

what didn't you like about them?

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Post by villager » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:55 am

what didn't you like about them?

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Post by Diodibuh » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:47 am

actually clean, crunch, gain channel. wasn't really what I expected.
Maybe because those amps are designed for more modern style guitars/pickups.
I played screamer 50 combo - clean started to drive too fast, gain is ok but this is not really hi gain. works quite nice with some modern types of pickups (probabilly will work ok with emg) - I tried it with some Kramer guitar, I think it was Dimarzio x2n installed, works ok but with les paul or strat just doesn't work.
I played tube rack 2x35w amp (discontinued, I think this is model 860, not shure), as far as I remembered was more rock sounding, not so hi gain. still: clean wasn't what I tought it was, gain was ok but not really hi gain.

right now I don't remember all models. I think Engl is more into powerful pickups oriented, modern style guitars. Maybe it will work ok with EMG but I hate EMG on guitars :oops:

If you're looking for some Hi Gain amps - some guys on one Slovenian guitar forum compared couple of hi-gain amps - Mesa dual and triple Rectifier, Hughes&Kettner triamp MK1 and MK2, Engl Ritchie Blackmoore sig, Peavey triple XXX and Marshall JCM 900 (ok, not really Hi Gain), guitar was PRS Custom 24. Winner: Mesa. But we all know - Rectifier and PRS is really good combination. We should make test comparing Les paul and maybe some strat guitars ;) Of course japan one 8)

I also tried couple og Hughes&Kettner (triamp mk1 combo 2x12, Switchblade, trilogy). To make story short: don't buy those amps.

probabily next week I'll go to Italy to test Mesa Boogie Mark III blue stripe, Elmwood modena 90 and VHT sig x. I'll have a Fibenare guitar (modern style), Tokai lS230, Bacchus BST54 or 62 and that Kramer I mentioned and I can write a review.

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Post by Dave_Mc » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:41 pm

villager wrote:while looking at amps i found this, and had to share..


I would love to be able to walk into a music store, and play like this..


http://www.gazotube.com/FYnlaQ_j6Tw.html

does anyone know if the engle does good loud clean?
i haven't tried the invader, but my savage se does loud cleans. breaks up a bit when really pushed, but that's incredibly loud. i assume the other high-end engl heads are similar.

The screamer is quite nice (it gets pretty high gain imo), but it doesn't really hold a candle to the higher-end engl heads. They get ridiculously high gain, I'm pretty sure the highest gain head i've ever tried has been either an engl powerball or SE. That's including things like rectos, 5150s (!), soldanos, vht, diezel, etc. etc. Ridiculous amounts of gain, really.

Though personally I'm not a major fan of the powerball, it's too orientated towards modern metal for my liking. The SE is a lot more versatile, but then it's ridiculously expensive. Savage might be worth a look, though (based on my savage se- i haven't tried the normal savage, they're a little different).

fwiw, IMO the engl cleans are good for high gain heads (they're an awful lot nicer than e.g. a 5150 clean, but won't be as nice as an amp aimed at cleans), but I have tried several other high gain heads with as nice cleans, if not maybe even slightly nicer. It all depends on what you want, what type of tone you're after, whether you're willing to compromise on cleans for a slightly nicer lead channel, etc. etc. etc.

EDIT: i don't use EMGs either, I use a range of different pickups.

I'm not trying to sell you an engl, lol, you can get what you want, but it's not really fair to write off engl because the screamer isn't what you want (if you ask me the screamer is pretty decent for the price, just not as good as the more expensive ones). You wouldn't refuse to buy a recto (if that's what you wanted) because you don't like the mesa express, kind of thing.

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Post by Diodibuh » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:21 pm

maybe some more expensive engl sounds good, I wrote my opinion on that I tried. But if I had to spend 2000+ ? for an amp, I would definitelly check other amps.

villager - one guy I know had conford mk50h and was very satisfied, I think he just sold it for 1200 or something. unfortunatelly I didn't have time to go to his place and try it.

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Post by JohnA » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:38 pm

villager wrote:while looking at amps i found this, and had to share..


I would love to be able to walk into a music store, and play like this..


http://www.gazotube.com/FYnlaQ_j6Tw.html

does anyone know if the engle does good loud clean?
He's got some chops!!

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Post by Dave_Mc » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:18 pm

Diodibuh wrote:maybe some more expensive engl sounds good, I wrote my opinion on that I tried. But if I had to spend 2000+ ? for an amp, I would definitelly check other amps.
oh yeah, of course. I'm just saying it's not fair to write off engl because the lower models don't compare with the boutique stuff. :)

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