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rabpal
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:08 am    Post subject: Tokai Goldstar Sound Reply with quote

Came across a lefty 80's Goldie, dont know the model no. its a kind of metallic green colour in average condition. The guy is asking ?500 for it! What do you guys think? Is it worth the money?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without pictures, kinda hard to even fathom a guess at what you are contemplating buying.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

?500 for a Goldstar is too much unless it's a high-end model, but 99% of the goldies that pop up in the UK are ST50 or 55's, for one in average condition about ?350 would be closer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed sellers of lefty Goldies asking unusually high prices. One was on ebay recently for ?699 BIN and obviously it didn't sell and is now up for ?599. I did see a nice MR Goldie go for ?250 on ebay recently, so that could indicate the market doesn't put any sort of premium on the fact that it is left-handed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,
I'll try to get some pics up, it has kluson style deluxe stamped tuners, a Fender shaped headstock, maple neck with skunkstripe, if that helps. The one on ebay at the mo is more like ransom money they are asking, greed is an ugly thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here's some pics, not that great quality tho. Let me know what you think. BTW the price has dropped to ?450

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread bumped due to impending purchase! Does anyone have an idea about the model number?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabpal wrote:
Thread bumped due to impending purchase! Does anyone have an idea about the model number?


Yes, all you need to do is look through the catalogues in the registry. This is the relevant page from the 1985 catalogue.



Lefty Goldstars were ST55s - that's it. So they couldn't be easier to identify. Having said that, there weren't any metallic blues listed in the choice of finishes, so that's a bit of a mystery.

Since a r/h block decal Springy just sold for ?471 in a similar colour, ?450 seems fine, & if I wanted one, I would grab that quickly.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120431484157

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike,

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1982_Tokai_ST60_Ice_Blue_57_Goldstar_Sound_Strat.html

I found this on the guitarsjapan website, this is the exact same guitar and colour of the lefty i posted. The pictures i posted look more blue, but its the same as this guitar only left handed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, the colours look different to me. I wonder why he claims it to be an ST60? The only Goldstars that came in a wide range of colours seem to be ST55s, so I would assume it's an ST55.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That '60' colour looks like LB. It has a round string tree like a '54 reissue so I would have thought that the serial # would be 4 digit instead of 6
I have seen TST-60 Maple mostly with 4 digit serial #.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The colour of the lefty does look blue in the pics, when i spoke to the guy at the guitar shop he said it was bluey/green, so i only have his word on it. Do the Tokais not have any markings in the neck pocket to determine the model no.? Like Fender Japan for instance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabpal wrote:
Do the Tokais not have any markings in the neck pocket to determine the model no.? Like Fender Japan for instance.


No, it would originally have had a sticker like this one, but they were often removed by their owners. Click pic to enlarge.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose most owners of these guitars wouldn't know of the significance of these stickers at purchase... So when it comes to TST or ST Tokais, which are considered higher end? I was told that if they have Kluson style tuners they up the higher end of the scale, not that it bothers me... I'm just interested. Had a few Loverocks in my time, but the Springys' and Goldstars are even more rare as lefties go.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kluson type tuners on ST50 and above, nitro on ST80 & above, higher numbers had 2 or even 1 piece bodies, pickups were supposedly better on higher models, though some of us might question that last point. That sort of thing. You get what you pay for, basically.
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