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which Tokai is compared to the Gibson Les Paul Standard??
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iidoido
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: which Tokai is compared to the Gibson Les Paul Standard?? Reply with quote

so, which Tokai model from Love Rock can be compared in the sound and quality to the Gibson Les Paul Standard? or even better..?
I just always wanted to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard but the price is too much, too much, too much expansive so I heard that Tokai Love Rock is like Gibson Les Paul.

I'd like to hear from you, the masters, which Toaki Love Rock model is compared and even better than the Gibson Les Paul.

Thank you,
Vince.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry mine is edited now. instead take mick's advice here. he is right.


The LP standards don't have a deep joint long tenon neck joint, i am not too sure where you got that info, it is the historics that have the long tenon and Tokai's short tenon is longer that the Gibson standard tenon and a much better joint. Gibson use a rocker joint so they can get the neck angle right which cuts production time, it is a very sloppy joint and no where as tight or well made as the Tokai neck joints.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www1.odn.ne.jp/tokaigakki/products/premium/ls150.html

http://www1.odn.ne.jp/tokaigakki/products/vintage/ls90.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and how much does it cost?
it's like the gibson les paul standard or better?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iidoido wrote:
and how much does it cost?
it's like the gibson les paul standard or better?


The Ls150 is better compared with the Gibson Custom-Shop-Les Pauls.

In my opinion they are better than Standard-noncustom-Gibsons.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, now that's great that they are better.
but the important thing is - are they sound the same as gibson les paul standard??
because I love so so so much the gibson les paul standard sounds...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally i wouldn't buy a Gibson standard, the construction is poor and to find a good one you have to play plenty of guitars. As far as the Tokai and other Japanese LP replicas are concerned i am yet to play a bad one and i own 8 Japanese LP's and have bought and sold a lot more for friends in Australia and still haven't had a bad one, i am not saying ALL Japanese LP's are better, just their consistency is definitely better than Gibson. Yes i have owned both, i no longer have any Gibsons at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, great...
but, there's maybe another model which is sounds like the gibson les paul standard and even better?
becuase the ls150 is also too expansive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're mostly just after that similar tone of Mahogany/maple cap anything from an LS80 upwards will suit.
The stock pickup DO give that classic LP sound but most of us swap out the pickups for our favorite brand.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Ozeshin, I think what you really want is a really good LP without spending much money.
So the cheaper Tokai Made In Japan will suit you very well.
I think LS85 is the cheapest MIJ at the moment .
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the initial question. However, I think you must first define "which" Gibson LP Standard that you are comparing to. For example, the originals from '58 - '60 are quite different from those from the '70's ........ and even now.

Are we to assume you mean as compared to the old originals?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed the recent ones.. or at least 80's onwards.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iidoido wrote:
ok, now that's great that they are better.
but the important thing is - are they sound the same as gibson les paul standard??
because I love so so so much the gibson les paul standard sounds...


of course it will sound like a Gibson, its the same Construction & Wood.

But EVERY single Les Paul will sound a little bit different of each other because wood is a natural Product.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="sasparilla]But EVERY single Les Paul will sound a little bit different of each other because wood is a natural Product.[/quote]

........ and different because of pickups, combinations of wood, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 Ozeshin! I owned some (a lotta) G?s, and the cheapest MIJ Baby made me cry (and sell) about my G?s!

Sorry I have to say it that hard: Sometimes it?s a shame ...................

.......... find your own words!

There?s too much business in music business, and that?s often the reason for very big disapointment!

cya mates, "ACY"
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