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Restored 1980 Greco Super Real EGF850
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Big Ed
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Restored 1980 Greco Super Real EGF850 Reply with quote

Then I would like to present my project here also times briefly:

I bought the Greco EGF850 from the forum member John A. Thank you, a super guitar!
The errors were me well-known and were described in detail by John.

The Greco before the restoration:




The individual steps during the restoration:
















The result after the restoration:


Complete history (in german) finds it here:
http://home.arcor.de/edgar.gutenberger/gitarren/greco_egf850/greco_egf850_restauration.htm

Further pictures of the restored Greco are to be seen here:
http://s670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/Big-Eds_photos/1980%20Greco%20Super%20Real%20EGF-850/

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's CRAZY what you guys are able to do! I'm completely stunned by what guitar love can do!
Congrats!
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow - very impressed. Much respect

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi big ed, can u tell us about how thick was the original greco
laminate???
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, that is an amazing job

love that neck puller tool
did you utilze steam, or any other heat source, when pulling the neck?

Reminds me a lot of much of the work I have seen over at the ReRanch Forum

Again, great work, thanks for sharing & congrats
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I originally bought the guitar to restore, and once I got it I really didn't have a clue where to start!! Ed did an amazing job on it, and assures me it sounds just as good as it looks!!

Ed, if you want to return it for a full refund you know where to find me
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That blows me away.................fantastic job...... and guitar
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congrats nice job with the restoration!

this is the first time to me to see super real era high end model demolition pics, thanks big ed!

this one looks normal tenon/dowel tenon before the restoration?
should super real era high end models incl. egf850 and upwards have that "famous" extension lip or is it in the egf1200 model only?

mark, i think the one you've seen with the lip > egf1200 right? must have been a custom order or some sort of proto?? "onetimer"?

wish i could see some demolition pics of the egf1200 to get more proof ... anyone?


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOKAI JOE wrote:
hi big ed, can u tell us about how thick was the original greco
laminate???


The original cover consists of 2 layers veneer:



The cover veneer from maple = 0.5 mm
The lower veneer from spruce = 0.75 mm

The new veneer consists of 1.5 mm fiddleback maple veneer.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
did you utilze steam, or any other heat source, when pulling the neck?


No. Since the neck was badly in-glued, I could extract it without the glued joint to heat up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnA wrote:
Ed, if you want to return it for a full refund you know where to find me


Sorry John, but the Greco has a very high individual value for me that I will never sell her!
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jinx wrote:
this one looks normal tenon/dowel tenon before the restoration?


That is correct!
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Ed wrote:
TOKAI JOE wrote:
hi big ed, can u tell us about how thick was the original greco
laminate???


The original cover consists of 2 layers veneer:



The cover veneer from maple = 0.5 mm
The lower veneer from spruce = 0.75 mm

The new veneer consists of 1.5 mm fiddleback maple veneer.



thanks big ed, thats really what i wanted to know! that thin huh.....
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Ed wrote:
Jinx wrote:
this one looks normal tenon/dowel tenon before the restoration?


That is correct!

That's REALLY Crazy!
You could take any common copy and turn it into historic accurate.. I'm f****d!
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a link to my old 1980 EGF-850
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9178

delaminating veneer top was easily 1.5 mm thickness ..............

delamination of veneer tops is the reason I DO NOT OWN ANY veneer topped guitars, period ..............

try & give me an EGF-1200; NO THANKS .........................
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