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Jockai
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: don't buy a Fender Blues Junior ..... Reply with quote

i bought this on a whim on ebay ...needed a practice amp ....

but i've had it with this thing .....i've changed the valves ....bought a nice

Celestion speaker ....a good quality lead......but it's just awful .....i wanted so

much to love it .....but it's got to go .....i've got an old Vox transistor amp

from the 70's which was a quarter of the price and sounds four times better

...i tried ....... i really did ...........there i've got it off my chest ..........
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got three of the Limited Edition tweed juniors (Italian made Jensen speaker and upgraded birch cabinet). Never had a problem. One of the best small combo amps I've ever owned.

What's the story on yours? Made in US or Mexico? Black tolex? What color is the circuit board - green or cream? Fender Special Design Eminence speaker (crap)?

I don't like to buy amps on eBay. I like to drive them first. Sounds like you got a dud.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a Mexican one with the Fender speaker ....not sure what colour the circuit board is ....you know i've taken it apart so many times before i can't even be bothered to do it again .....nobody else i know has got one to compare it to ....so you may be right it's just a dud .....i bought a Blackstar HT5 instead which is a great amp .....i tried everything with the Fender but it just didn't take me "there" to that place where you stop fiddling with controls and just enjoy playing .....maybe it's got swine flu !!!......
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marcusnieman
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jockai wrote:
....maybe it's got swine flu !!!......


Sounds more like it's a swine. Bummer.....they really are nice amps. Next time you're in a guitar shop, look for a lacquered tweed Junior. Look at the back panel for a little metal badge below the input jack saying Limited Edition. (the relic version is the same amp....just beat up)

Plug that thing in and have at it.....you won't be disappointed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Hot-Rod-Series-NOS-Blues-Junior-1X12-Tube-Amp_W0QQitemZ160335096916QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2554b76c54&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the Blues Junior in a mate's shop and it was simply craptacular...I tried Fenders,Gibsons,Deans...nothing I played through it made a jot of difference to the shitty tone.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, I have a Fender Blues Junior 10 years old, Jensen Speaker.

Mine sounds like Cowgirls Crying, just fab. The controls are a bit wierd - volume is hair trigger up to 2-3 but after that it sings. Tone controls dont seem to do much so I turn back the treble to 7 and wind the rest up to max. It is only 12-15 watts so it lacks bottom end for those of you used to 4x12 - It will do that too but at modest volumes. i once asked Charlie Chandler if they had an amp that sounded like a Blues Junior but at 50 watts he said " No, but everyone is looking for that". See how you go it may charm you finally.

I imagine I like the style if you prefer the dryer beefier Marshall then it might not be for you. its a Fender and is bright and jangly.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sit down everybody, I'm about to agree with Ozeshin about tone. Actually it's a bit worrying to have to agree with Oze while disagreeing with Marcus, but I was glad to get rid of my Blues Junior. Mine was a black US model, I think Marcus said it was a green board one when I was selling it.

It lacked several things, the main ones being tone & character. It just didn't sound like a Fender! Compared to my 1993 Blues Deluxe, it was amazingly unimpressive in almost every way, & I could never understand why so many people love them.

Mind you, when I sold it (after 2 years), I lost a total of 74p, so it cost me the huge sum of 37p each year I owned it, so they hold their value!

Each to their own, I suppose.

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:

I don't like to buy amps on eBay. I like to drive them first. Sounds like you got a dud.


I bought my Laney from ebay which to be fair to the seller was in the condition described (at least externally). Find it hard to believe that a valve would go so soon after it had been played "very few times and never been cranked", which is what happened. I think it's best to take things you cannot prove with a pinch of salt in those situations.

Unless the seller can do a demo on youtube and post a link there is no way of knowing if it's going to sound as expected either.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
Sit down everybody, I'm about to agree with Ozeshin about tone. Actually it's a bit worrying to have to agree with Oze while disagreeing with Marcus, but I was glad to get rid of my Blues Junior.

Excuse me...but I have to run now...a pig just flew past my top story window
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ozeshin wrote:

Excuse me...but I have to run now...a pig just flew past my top story window


You mean swine flew? (hehe....)

There is quite a cult following of Blues Juniors and the amps can be hotrodded. There's a guy named Bill Machrone (known as Bill M) and he is famous for his mods. His website is below.....have a look at what he does. I'm on the waiting list to send him one of mine to work on:

http://billmaudio.com/wp/
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blues Juniors are Marmite/Vegemite amps - you either love them or hate them. A bit like Texas Special pickups.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get a vintage Fender Champ or Fender Princeton?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cali Girl wrote:
Can you get a vintage Fender Champ or Fender Princeton?


Not sure what you mean by that, but a Champ doesn't have reverb, I'm not sure about a Princeton. And a Fender amp without reverb ain't worth a sh**.

IMHO, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
Cali Girl wrote:
Can you get a vintage Fender Champ or Fender Princeton?


Not sure what you mean by that, but a Champ doesn't have reverb, I'm not sure about a Princeton. And a Fender amp without reverb ain't worth a sh**.

IMHO, of course.


I just mean that these are my favorite practice amps, vintage ones are plentiful and affordable where I am. They sound great and are just the right size for the living room. I would rather buy a vintage Princeton or Champ than a new Fender of any type really.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fair bit pricier though, to be fair. My Cornell is a big improvement over the BD, but it cost a lot more, so it should be!

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