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Lord Analog
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Breezy Reply with quote

Hi there,
I am a total newbie in this forum but would need some help with the id of a particular Breezy on Ebay. I know it is definately pre1982 (spaghetti logo) but otherwise I a have no idea.

Here are the details:

* color is black, as is the pickguard, which seems quite unusual
* the sticker on the back of the neck is missing
* serialnr is L with 5 digits
* pickups have been swapped for different ones
* pots are non-original
* body is claimed to be nitro
* tuners are single line deluxes

So, its supposed to be a 60 repro, but what exact model? How can I be sure the body is original (I suppose the neck is). What would you pay for such a guitar. I am looking for a player not a collectible. Every info would help!

Thanks in advance for the help!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only Springys that were nitro were ST80's and abbobe, you can identify these by the V profile neck.

As for whether the body is original, the only way to tell is some pics of the body with the scratchplat off. If you can't get these then there's really no way to tell.

The black scratchplate is certainly non-original, but if you are after a player that's not really an issue if you like the look of it.

The value really depends on the model number.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,
he dont mean a springy,he speak about this breezy.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160304618165&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
No idea what model,maybe a TE50.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnA wrote:
Whoops


It's hard to swap from one to the other sometimes ...
Go one mate ...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it looks OK, but I've never seen an L serial number on a Breezy before. I thought only Goldstars had those?

Only TE80s and above were nitro finished, my 1980 TE70 is poly, unfortunately. So unless it's a TE80 - and where is the proof that it is? it will be poly finished.

Breezys weren't usually as accurate a copy as Springys & Goldies, they often had "period wrong" features like 6 saddle bridges (very good and comfortable bridges actually).

Looks OK, if you like black, but I don't recall seeing black SPs on RW board Breezys either. It's a bit hard to put a value to it because of these questions.



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Lord Analog
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optically, I like the guitar very much.
However I am unsure what I would want to pay for it, considering the authenticity question. This is definately a risk and I wouldn't want to rip someone off, i.e. saying its original, in case I wanted to re-sell it.
What would you guys pay for it or would you not buy it at all?
Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would ask the seller a few questions, to try to get answers to the above questions before deciding. What makes him think it's nitro? What model number does he think it is?

It would also be good to hear from other forum members, who may know the answers - maybe I'm missing something?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:


It would also be good to hear from other forum members, who may know the answers - maybe I'm missing something?


Nothing to add - I'd ask the seller the same questions.
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Lord Analog
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New infos:
seller says he imported the guitar from Japan. Could give no details about the finish. There are no stamps in the neck cavity, however in the routing for pots and switch there is a stamp that says 3=85B Z. Not entirely sure about the 5 and B. Does that maybe ring a bell? I can't post any photos, if anybody is interested, I can send them by email.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly SB? If you load your pics onto www.photobucket.com you can post a link to them on here, then anyone who is interested can look.

If he can't give you details of the finish, why is he claiming it's nitro? That sort of claim really p*****s me off.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just uploaded these:
http://s437.photobucket.com/albums/qq95/domidigital/tokai/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stamp says 5=8 BB Z.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like 8BB - BB is the Tokai colour code for black, so the body is probably Tokai. I'm still not sure if the scratchplate is original, but I guess that doesn't make a huge difference. So I would assume it's an ST50 - the standard model.

But I've been wrong before....
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

breezy-TE-80's have a gold bridge plate..
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