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TommyR
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information about these instruments? I have been offered one by a friend of a friend. I'm pretty familiar with Tokai's ST copies - Spring Sound and Goldstar Sound but this appears to be a late 60's /early 70's ST copy with larger style headstock. Guitar is white with black scratchplate, pick-up covers and volume/tone knobs. The logo is one of the backwards 7 type so it's dated from late 70s to 1980/81. I don't know if it's as collectible as Tokai's other ST models but it's a nice player. Any help would be really welcome. Thanks very much. Tom
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy,try YAHOO JAPAN AUCTIONS.I HAVE SEEN A PAIR ON SALE A WEEK AGO.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver Star series I have seen got a 70,s wider head or similar.SS-38,SS-48 AND SS-60 MODELS,only japanese market maybe,I am not sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver star series headstock I look feels very similar to a Fender JV series I saw in a guitar book titled "guitar handbook" by Ralph Denyer,page 63
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I wanted to bring this back to the top to see if anyone could shed more light on the silver star topic since this thread, any info appreciated!
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,
The Silver Star series were Tokai replicas of the CBS-era Strats and had the model designation TSS instead of TST. Some models were offered with a 4-bolt neck (CBS 65-70) and some with a 3-bolt neck (CBS 71-on).
The 3-bolt neck had a bullet truss rod, black scratch plate and black Tokai logo. The maple fingerboards were stuck on the same as rosewood (i'm 90% sure)and the body was alder. Logo style was "spagetti" gold or black, changing to black script in 1984
This model does not seem to have continued after 1985. They were not imported to Australia.
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charlie
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for that info, it seems like nobody really knows anything about these!!
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Charlie,
This model was not as successful as the TST series due to the fact that CBS still owned Fender at the time and players wanted the older style guitars.
Construction wise they were no different to the TST series in terms of quality so they represent excellent value.
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charlie
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, I just bought one on ebay, I hope I didnt get hosed too bad! I like the big headstock seventies look, I hope that their version of the three bolt neck is tighter then fenders was! Here is a link, if anyone is curious,
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1502583565&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1011136598&indexURL=0&rd=1
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TommyR
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like there could be some interest in the Silver Star. I got one from a friend (Japan-based) and it's a really nicely made instrument. I've never played a 70's Strat but the fingerboard on this was nice and flat, with higher output p-ups than you'd find on 50s/60s reissues. Guitar had 3-bolt neck, micro-tilt etc. Only for the Japanese market as far as I know - none of the catalogues feature them on the Tokai Registry. A few people remark on its similarity to the SQ series Squiers of the mid-80s, at least in looks - any thoughts on this?
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Charlie and TommyR
The TSS on eBay was made between 1980-82, due to the logo shape, probably the TSS-48. The retail in 1982 would have been around US$600.00. At any price, buying an immaculate 20yo guitar in pristine condition with the quality of wood that was used back then is a bargain. Good score! Post some pics.
I'm pretty sure the TSS series was for Japan only so any that are surfacing are rare. The Squier guitars were made in Japan under license to Fender so they would have heaps of similarities to the Tokai.
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Peter

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charlie
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have it next week, I will try to do some better pics then that ad, will try to get some shots under the pick guard and that sort of thing,,if that original retail is accurate, then i guess it wasnt too bad, I have heard nothing but good stuff about the springys and goldstars, so i hope this is as good as they are, the japs didnt generally make junk for themselfs. Also, will there be any marks on the guitar itself to help nail the year down closer? thanks

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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2002 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi charlie
I look forward to seeing the pics.
As far as marks go I cannot help you. The model was not imported into Australia so I did not have the opportunity to examine new guitars. They may have had the oval sticker, but check the base of the neck for markings and inside the routed cavity. also any letters or marks on the pickups could give an indication to the model. With the TST series, the various models (TST50, 60,80) had different pickups in them.
Yhe main models were TSS-38 and TSS-48 so it is likely your axe will be one of these models - but lets wait and see.
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Peter
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I still have not received my strat, lol, hopefully today, but i was informed by the seller that this guitar came with a five position switch. Is this normal? I thought all seventies fenders came with a 3? He is tossing in a three way switch too, just curious, also an SN question, every silver star pic i have seen they seem to actually have a unique SN is this not also true of the springys and goldstars?
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