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orvilles vs gibson LP standard
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mrsuspend
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem is pine grows quick and straight so making decent plank wood in a very short time. But for quality you have to wait at least 50 years for the wood to "set" and there's just no money in it.

This is starting to feel more than a little bit OT... sorry...

EDIT: Also nowadays wood is force dried which leaves it much brittler that letting it dry naturally (which takes a few years).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We live in a disposable world now Mike, nothing is made to last any more...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Gibson and Japanese comparisons you can only compare the higher priced Japanese guitars.

A regular Gibson Standard pre chambering had a short tenon and nitro and was say around 300,000 Yen in Japan. Compare that with these top of the line OBG's and notice the price.

LPS-QM 228000 Les Paul Standard Quilted Maple '57 Classic (USA) CS,VS,LD (no pickguard)
LPS-FM 198000 Les Paul Standard Flame Maple Top '57 Classic (USA) CS,VS,LD (no pickguard)

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11488


Guitars are like cars or whatever. A no frills K Orville is not as cosmetically pleasing as a G serial OBG but they are made from the same wood basically. The number of wood pieces don't matter that much in terms of sound. What about a 3 piece guitar made from 3 great sounding pieces of wood then a 3 piece guitar made from 2 pieces of great sounding wood and one piece that's not that great sounding then a one piece guitar made from not that great sounding wood. It's all a bit random. Terada can't test every piece of wood for sonic greatness so it's a mixed bag for the high end and the low end. Some K Orvilles with changed pickups would sound great and some G serial OBG's might not sound as great as you would expect. If someone pays a higher price for something than they might be tempted to imagine a better tone because they want something for their money.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All very true. I know people stress the quality of wood and craftsmanship on Japanese guitars, but I reckon it's more to do with quality control than anything else - they are just too fussy to let the sub-standard stuff onto the market. There's good evidence to suggest it's the same with cars too.
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