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Mikes Music in Canada !!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2001 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,
Every person who e-mailed me asking questions about the guitar was informed that it was a Korean guitar. I do walk the walk . I was honest with everyone who was interested in the guitar. Don't make statements that you can't back up. You sound like in idiot that way. That's just an a suggestion. I can prove everything that I've stated on this site. Do you want me to forward the e-mail I received from Mike when I bid on this guitar. He's a liar and all you that are sleeping with him are no better. It was a simple question with only one right answer.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Ned']
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2001 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan, I don't see your name or your guitars listed in the registry. For someone who has "bought some" for Mike and is so active here , what's up with that. You sound like a liar too. Maybe your names Mike too....

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Tony']
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2001 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,you did not call all the dealers. There are Mahogany bodies and necks at other dealer locations. So again I ask .... what makes an LE besides the tag and truss cover ?
It's sounding more and more and more that in some way you are connected with Mike's !!!

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Mike']
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2001 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey anonymo, you're right, there are Mahogany Tokai's in some stores....they are Japanese. I asked the guy at Mikes Music and he said that there are no Mahogany Korean Tokais available anywhere! Lies again from the anonymous one

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Joe Presedo']
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2001 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(*&) you Dan! If that is your real name! I bet you are in disguise as Mikes Music. Korean guitars aren't as good as US Guitars and you know it. I can't wait till Tokai goes out of business and takes that leech Mikes Music with them!

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Joe Presedo']
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2001 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several Anonymous posters on the list.

Dan you are totally wrong ! There are KOREAN all mahogany guitars in other stores in Ontario Canada. They come from the same distributor Active Music as do Mikes. Only difference is Mike's are labeled LE's while the other stores are not.

NOW ... BACK TO THE ORGIGINAL QUESTION NO ONE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER !!!

WHAT .... BESIDES THE PRINTED TAG, TRUSS ROD COVER, ETC. MAKES MIKE's Guitars Limited Editions ???

I challange everyone on this list to prove there is any real difference and answer the above question.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Ned']
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2001 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind the spirited discussion here but lets drop the foul language.

If I continue to see this kind of language and accusations from people hiding behind the anonymous posting I will require everyone to register before posting. Please don't abuse the honor system.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'luis a. varela']
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2001 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no Korean models with mahogany, they are made from Alder and Maple for the neck.

This is right from the Tokai source.

Nice try though, anonymous. And easy on the swearing! It makes you look dumber than you already are!

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Barry']
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2001 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NED, first let me say I am not the anonymous poster that uses any foul language. I agree with you, anyone that abuses your rules should be removed. You run an excellent board that is helping everyone find out the truth about Tokai Guitars and helping the consumer become an informed consumer. And NED, if you know the answer to the question I keep asking, would you please post what you know so far ?

Dan, AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG. You insist that there are no Korean models with mahogany. Mike's is selling them and so are other Ontario stores.
Who is your Tokai source ?
It is now apparent to us all that you have no idea what you are talking about. The evidence is in. There are Korean guitars made with Mahogany necks and bodies and perhaps some with Alder and Maple. But to have Mike call the mahogany ones Limited Editions, and the other stores that carry the mahogany ones not call them limited editions, posses some serious questions about the representation of these guitars. I challenged all to tell me the differnce between the Limited Editions Mike's is selling to the mahogany models found in other stores and no one so far has. For you Dan to continue to insist that there are no Korean models with mahogany makes you look ill informed. Mike's will admit his mahogany guitars are Korean made.
The question I have posed has not been resolved.
This is about the representation of the Korean made mahogany models. It appears that a batch of guitars where made in the Korean Factory with mahogany wood perhaps from a request from Mike's Music to the Canadian distributor Active Music. Active distriutes to all stores in Ontario. Nothing wrong with that .... good choice of wood. I have personally seen the same wood choice on love rocks in other stores in Ontario Canada but they are not called limited editions. So stick to the question ... what makes Mike's LE's different besides the printed tag and truss rod cover ? That's all I want to know. As a consumer interested in guitars, I want to know the difference to be able to buy intelligently.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2001 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I new the answer I would have spoken up long ago. Sorry.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Ned']
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2001 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous does not seem to comprehend the fact that the Limited Editions are the only Korean Tokai guitars made with Mahogany bodies. My source is the source who supplies all the Tokais in Canada, Active Music.

Why don't you call Active Music for yourself and stop wasting everyones time. Do you even have any Tokai's?

My Limited Edition is made with mahogany, has a serial number, and printed Truss Rod. The wood is great and it is 1 piece. I don't know why you claim that the body is 4 pieces of wood. You are trying to knock Tokai guitars and it aint workin. I also got a hang tag with my guitar that no other Tokai comes with, Korean or Japanese. The guitar came with a case and full warranty.

You should get one before you knock one. Do yourself a favor. If I can get one here in the US, you should be able to too. And if you're from Canada, just go to Mikes Music or Ring Music in Toronto and try one.

All I know is that my guitar kicks ass live and the color is amazing, not to mention the strong and quiet pickups.

Limited or not, I wouldn't give up my guitar for any Gibson out there. Call me stupid or whatever you want, but I know what I like!

Peace.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Dan']
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2001 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got my Gold Top Tokai Guitar from Mikes Music in Canada. He told me it was Korean and that it was a Japanese modeled instrument. I can see how some people can be misled by his statements. I still went ahead and purchased the guitar.

What can I say? Perfect set up, great action and one of the best guitars I have ever played. The neck is a little thinner than I thought it would be. I was expecting a bat. The weight is just under 9 pounds and it sustains forever.

I had the guy at Mikes Music put on a set of 11's for me, and he did it for free. The serial number is under the finish and stamped in Gold. The body from what I can tell is 2 pieces and the finish seems to be a little better than the cheaper Korean guitars. The headstock is an exact Gibson 1958 shape. How is Tokai aloud to do this? Am I allowed to go get some guitars made exactly like Gibson or Fender and Sell them with my name on it? Please answer me Ned!

I am blown away overall and am showing it off this weekend at my club show.

Why is Mikes Music the only ones selling these?

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Gary']
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2001 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't posted this on the site yet. But Gary, no you are not. Tokai is no longer allowed to import the Love Rocks models into North America.

Dan, the number on the back of the headstock of your LE is not a serial number it is a model number. Sorry dude.

[Anonymously Posted by: 'Ned']
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2001 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan ... your source Active Music sells the same Korean guitars to many dealers. That is why you will find mahogany love rocks without the printed tags in other stores. So it begs the question ... why are Mike's guitars LE's and not theirs ? No one so far has been able to explain or prove a difference ... and do you really think Active will tell you if there is no real difference ?
My none limited edition is made with mahogany, has a number but has no scribed truss rod cover. Do you get it yet ? I can scribe my truss rod cover, print up some tags and call it a Limited Edition !!! This is a Mike's Music LE. Not a Tokai LE ! Hence the MM. Think hard ... you will
get it if you try ! I have never knocked Tokai guitars ... my whole and only issue is to find out the real difference in Mike's so called Limited Editions and those mahogany guitars found in other stores that are not labeled LE's.
Could Mike be pulling a fast one here ?????????
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2001 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary .. Mike's is not the only one selling the guitar you just bought. There are many others stores in Canada selling the exact same guitar.
By the way ..... Mike didn't label it a Limited Edition did he ?
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