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DP
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Valve combo Reply with quote

Posted this on tokai guitars in error
anyway, have been playing about a year, starting at the grand old age of 48, and have started joining in local jam sessions with my squier. I am about to purchase an LS85F and will be looking to purchase a valve combo to compliment this guitar. Budget is an issue (I have a wife!!!!)
Could I have some suggestions (about the amp) please
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would help to know a bit more about your tastes in music, which players get the sounds that you like and would like to get close to, etc. etc. Choice of amps is a very personal thing, depending on what you hope to sound like. Once you let us know that, someone should be able to make a few suggestions. An idea of your maximum budget would help too, as well as where in the world you are.



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Valve combo Reply with quote

I like the tones of players like Gary Moore, Jan Ackerman, Dave Gilmour,
Peter Green, mick Ronson, Paul Kossoff, early Clapton and many more.
I reckon my budget would be up to about ?400.
I am south london based
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best budget valve combo that I've found recently are the B52 AT series.

http://www.b-52stealthseries.com/AT112.html
and you could try the ST series as well....

http://www.b-52stealthseries.com/ST6012.html
The ST IS pricier than the AT however but both have amazing tones...and will DEFINITELY be my next amp...unless Ceritone distribute in Australia
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, where did you go Mike, one mention of Gary Moore and your gone.....


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm not really the best person to advise DP, am I Mick?

Actually, I realised when I read that, that I have no idea what amps Peter Green used. Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong but i read somewhere he used a marshall plexi 100 watt bass head...Oze will know for sure....

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary Moore uses...oh....sorry wrong "bluesman"
When it comes to Peter Green you need to specify an era for example:
Quote:
By 1964 MATAMP amplifiers were made on neatly bent aluminum chassis with a white front panel
with the name MATAMP on the front with a single underscore line under the name. With such an audio
sound, people in the pop business began to talk and in 1968 Mat was then approached by a man in
London named Cliff Cooper. Cliff wanted some amps made for his studio in London called Orange.
A sample amplifier was made and taken to London where it was tried by Peter Green of the group
Fleetwood Mac. The amplifier was a success and Peter Green used it to record Albatross which
went to number one on the charts and has been popular ever since. Mat's amplifiers were now in
demand. Fleetwood Mac went on tour through the United States with Mat and he realized that the
amp chassis and box would need to be more heavy duty and the power output would need to be at
least 100 Watt.

AND:
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Fenton Weill guitar amp.
Circa '64, built in an era where amps of this type took on that magic sound. Fenton Weill was a favorite amp of Peter Green from Fleetwood Mac. This amp was built with materials found on both early AC30s and the early Marshalls. Truly a collectors piece.

MOSTLY it was the MATAMP 2000 circa 1964 and it's various upgraded models throught the 60's.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, If you just started to play, mostly livingroom practise and do some jamming now and then you will probably not need any more wattage than 15.

You want real quality and still not overpriced... the answer would be a Blackheart. The Handsome Devil model would probably suit your needs, or maybe even the Little Giant 5 watter. Depends on how much cleans you need and jam volumes.



Then there's always the Pro and Blues Juniors on the used market, which are good starters! Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also check out the Ceriatone 18 watt clones , awesome value for money and bullit proof construction, i'll link you..
http://www.ceriatone.com/productSubPages/BSTMBEF86/BSTMBEF86Complete.htm
Check out the reviews at harmony central
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar%20Amp/brand/CeriaTone
I'm getting a 100 watt jcm 800 lead series at the moment
You can also hear what they are about at 18watt.com.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest a Vox valvetronix modelling amp combo. You can get lots of different tones from it.
I have the AD60VTX and it sounds great with my LS90Q. I gig with this amp.
They do a AD30VT series which would be more than adequate for your needs.
In fact the ad50vt is probably a good choice (bit cheaper than the 30 or 60). You can pick up one of these for about ?190 new. They are a lot of amp for the money.
Check them out on HC reviews. Worth a look.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By way of an outside suggestion - Epiphone Valve Junior -?90 and delivers a very good early clapton - it's only 5 watts (albeit a remarkably loud 5 watts). Only real downside is 8 inch speaker, which (arguably) sounds a bit boxy. Almost throwaway money when you consider it's a Class A all valve amp for not much more than a solid state practice amp.

Could be limited by output for jamming - so I'd suggest a Fender Blues Junior - I put my LS70F through one and it does instant "Still Got the Blues"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceboomstick wrote:
I'd suggest a Fender Blues Junior - I put my LS70F through one and it does instant "Still Got the Blues"


Ah, that must be why I've never been very impressed with the sound of my Blues Junior!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
bruceboomstick wrote:
I'd suggest a Fender Blues Junior - I put my LS70F through one and it does instant "Still Got the Blues"


Ah, that must be why I've never been very impressed with the sound of my Blues Junior!

Yessss..people should be looking for that classic"Under the bridge/I am the next hendrix just ask me" tone..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, that must be why I've never been very impressed with the sound of my Blues Junior!


I was going to edit my post to contain the phrase "If that's your bag"

Gary Moore is undoudtedly the guitar equivalent to marmite.
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